Teachers Kids/Summer Break

[Unregistered]

Paying more through the school months makes sense, especially for those who aren't paid year around. Divide their annual fees by the months they are there, and keep their spot over the summer. Fill it with PT'ers and you're ahead of the game IF you've put the extra fees away through the year.

I know a few teachers who appreciate this option, and one provider who filled her daycare with teacher's kids and set up payment this way. She was off the same time teachers were but still paid the same so she skipped having part-timers in the summer and just took the time off.

[jen]

I always liked having teachers....the hours, the days off. I didn't charge them for summer, but had them leave a deposit for the following year.

[WDW]

Those of you that charge half rate for them over the summer, do you still full the spot with drop ins if the child isn't going to be there?

I wondered this too. I don't charge them anything over the summer, but I have them give me two weeks (nonrefundable) for their spot. If they return they get to apply that towards the first two weeks of daycare in the fall.

I also don't give them any unpaid days when school is in session. My non-teacher kids get so many days "free" but teachers pay me everyday while school is on, even if I take a day off. This includes spring break and Christmas break. Then they get a free summer. I think this is more than generous, but you'd be annoyed by how many of them are here over the breaks "since we are paying." ::

[momma2girls]

I charge 2 weeks holding fee during the summer, for my 3 families.

[E Daycare]

I have mostly teacher kids too and will be sending out my note home about summer schedules tonight. I know the kids might come once a week and my policy is $25/mo for held spot so the once a week covers it (and then some). I really like my break in the summer so I don't push any type of "set schedule", I just ask they let me know before 7:30 the night before if the kids will come that next day. That worked wonderfully last year and hopefully I'll have the same type of summer this year. I also place an ad for prn summer care too but most of the time I don't even bother picking up extra kids because I plan so much with my son.

I'm really looking forward to summer break. I wish I had taken on ALL teachers kids. I'm lucky most of my teacher parents want to spend the summer with their kids ( or it could be financial, they may not be able to afford through the summer too).

Either way, I do a happy dance come the beginning of june. happyface

[momma2girls]

Teachers think that they shouldn't have to pay their day care provider for services they aren't receiving????

I wonder how it would go over if they were told that they weren't getting paid over the summer because they weren't actually teaching?????

I hear you, one family I have, comes every single day, no matter what!!!!

[momma2girls]

I have mostly teacher kids too and will be sending out my note home about summer schedules tonight. I know the kids might come once a week and my policy is $25/mo for held spot so the once a week covers it (and then some). I really like my break in the summer so I don't push any type of "set schedule", I just ask they let me know before 7:30 the night before if the kids will come that next day. That worked wonderfully last year and hopefully I'll have the same type of summer this year. I also place an ad for prn summer care too but most of the time I don't even bother picking up extra kids because I plan so much with my son.

I'm really looking forward to summer break. I wish I had taken on ALL teachers kids. I'm lucky most of my teacher parents want to spend the summer with their kids ( or it could be financial, they may not be able to afford through the summer too).

Either way, I do a happy dance come the beginning of june. happyface

I will be doing the happy dance at the end of May!!!!

[momma2girls]

I wondered this too. I don't charge them anything over the summer, but I have them give me two weeks (nonrefundable) for their spot. If they return they get to apply that towards the first two weeks of daycare in the fall.

I also don't give them any unpaid days when school is in session. My non-teacher kids get so many days "free" but teachers pay me everyday while school is on, even if I take a day off. This includes spring break and Christmas break. Then they get a free summer. I think this is more than generous, but you'd be annoyed by how many of them are here over the breaks "since we are paying." ::

If I made my teacher's pay full price during Christmas and Spring breaks, I know of at least one of my family's would bring their children here every day!!! I give them 1/2 the weekly rate, to keep their children at home with them

[Unregistered]

Teacher Perspective

Take a look at teacher salaries, teachers are paid for days of work. (usually 184 days)

Teachers are not paid for days that they do not work (summer). The can choose to have their pay spread out over 12 months.

As a day care provider, you are wanting to be paid for not working. If you can get this business good for you. Average teacher takes home $3500 a month, average day care nets $8000 a month (based on 8 kids). Thanks for providing care to our kids, but don't be greedy about it.

[Blackcat31]

Take a look at teacher salaries, teachers are paid for days of work. (usually 184 days)

Teachers are not paid for days that they do not work (summer). The can choose to have their pay spread out over 12 months.

As a day care provider, you are wanting to be paid for not working. If you can get this business good for you. Average teacher takes home $3500 a month, average day care nets $8000 a month (based on 8 kids). Thanks for providing care to our kids, but don't be greedy about it.

Holy buckets! Where in the world did you get that information? $8,000 per month! Do you mean centers or family child care because they are two VERY different settings and two VERY different rate policies but if you meant family child care then WOW! I want to live where you live!! I have more than 8 kids and have been FULL for many many years and I have never ever netted $8000 in a month AND I am on the higher side for what I charge for rates!!!!

My state ranks 16th for average teacher salaries and the average income for teachers in my state is $50,545 per year.

I found teacher salaries to be pretty interestig according to the AFT: http://www.employmentspot.com/employ...eacher-salary/
here is another site that list daycare costs per year. http://www.doodledays.com/index.php?...=61&Itemid=112

As you can see center care varies a lot from family child care and the fact that whether your child is an infant, toddler, preschooler or school ager also plays a huge role in costs. Simply saying child care providers net $8000 per month is unfair when there are so many variables involved.

I suppose the same can be siad about teacher's too. Whether you work in specialized teaching, elementary, middle or high school all plays a role in salary. Not to mention admin departments and other positions in the education departments.

FWIW~ for teacher's children, I charge a higher rate during the year to make up for summer absences as one option, the other option is to pay like everyone else and continue to attend like everyone else. I currently have 4 teachers and 3 come/pay all year and 1 stays home and takes the higher rate option. NONE have complained or thought I was unfair.

[daycare]

Take a look at teacher salaries, teachers are paid for days of work. (usually 184 days)

Teachers are not paid for days that they do not work (summer). The can choose to have their pay spread out over 12 months.

As a day care provider, you are wanting to be paid for not working. If you can get this business good for you. Average teacher takes home $3500 a month, average day care nets $8000 a month (based on 8 kids). Thanks for providing care to our kids, but don't be greedy about it.

I am with blackcat not sure where you got your numbers, but unlike you, we have to go and find kids to fill spots when they are left empty. It can take weeks or months to do so. Especially in today's job market, there are a lot of people who are unemployed, leaving daycare providers with empty spots.

We are paid by the number of kids that are in our care, not a salary. So if I charge $25.00 per kid each day and I have 3 kids, then I have $75.00. I plan for that money and have obligations to my family just like any other working mom. Being a provider is a not a hobby for most of us, it's a career.

So now you have a teachers child and you need to let them go for the summer. Well you just lost $500.00 a month. That is a lot of money to lose. Since summer is only 2.5 months, there is no way that most of us would ever find a temporary replacement to come in and fill that Teacher's CHILD spot to recover that money.I am assuming that the teacher will need daycare again in the fall, so do we tell the family that took the open spot in the summer to uproot their child and move on so that the Teacher's child can have the spot back that they didn't pay for?

Unlike your job, your students are there and return in full numbers, because it is the LAW that all children attend school. You are paid your full salary if your students are in attendance or not.

Would you like to only be paid by the amount of students you had in your class? I am sure if there were options for students and parents to choose teachers, it would turn just as competitive as the Childcare world.

[mac60]

In our district, teachers get paid 12 mo a year. Their salary is spread out over 12 months and they only work approx 8 months once you deduct all the breaks, holidays, days off, etc. This does not include their extensive benefit package. I would give anything to have a job making 50 grand per year and only work 8 months a year. Do I feel sorry for teachers. Heck no.

[Willow]

, average day care nets $8000 a month (based on 8 kids).

For fun we should totally do that math....:

The claim is a net of $8000 a month for 8 kids.

Breaks down to $1000 a month each child or $250 a week.

Divide that by an average 40 hour work week, comes out to $6.25/hour

x8 kids ='s a home daycare provider raking in $50/HOUR

$96,000 a YEAR!!!!!!!


HOLY BUCKETS IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!

Apparently I am living in the wrong geographical area ::

[itlw8]

I like having a lighter summer ... mine come 3 days a week... set days and I do not do p/t infant care.

That is my rule but I have one family that comes 2x a week and then I have another new child filling the opening left. They have to take the days I give them and no switching on holidays.

[itlw8]

As a day care provider, you are wanting to be paid for not working. If you can get this business good for you. Average teacher takes home $3500 a month, average day care nets $8000 a month (based on 8 kids). Thanks for providing care to our kids, but don't be greedy about it.

Wow that would be 96,000 a year is that before or after expenses????

too bad after expenses my tax return said I made 10,000 last year.