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Group homes. More space. Larger ratios.
It is not even an option in my state anymore. We only have four licensing structures now.
- Family Learning Home - Licensed, 6 kids max.
- Center - Licensed, number dependant on space and staff.
- Legally unlicensed - No more than two kids for pay (related or unrelated.
- Illegal - Unlicensed, More than two kids for pay
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- Family Learning Home - Licensed, 6 kids max.
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Currently pay minimum wage when hired. After 1 year of employment annual raise, after 2 years of employment quarterly bonuses, after 3 years of employment paid time off at a rate of 1 hour of PTO per 35 hours worked.
Group home, 12 children can be in attendance at one time, anything over 6 children I am required to have an assistant.
When I was licensed for 6 (no assistant) business maxed out at $22k gross. Licensed for 12, with an assistant, business brought in $46k gross. After payroll the business grossed $34k.
Aside from the money, I do better with another adult here. My anxiety and depression is much less and I don't feel burned out as often.
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Originally posted by Cat Herder View PostGroup homes. More space. Larger ratios.
It is not even an option in my state anymore. We only have four licensing structures now.
- Family Learning Home - Licensed, 6 kids max.
- Center - Licensed, number dependant on space and staff.
- Legally unlicensed - No more than two kids for pay (related or unrelated.
- Illegal - Unlicensed, More than two kids for pay
It's a good thing because there is no way I'd be able to afford one. Even with 12 full time kids.
Having to pay min wage and pay employee/employer tax stuff makes it impossible. Half my income would go to an employee and if I only wanted income for 6 kids, I'd opt to downsize and have a smaller group.
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- Family Learning Home - Licensed, 6 kids max.
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Originally posted by Cat Herder View PostGroup homes. More space. Larger ratios.
It is not even an option in my state anymore. We only have four licensing structures now.
- Family Learning Home - Licensed, 6 kids max.
- Center - Licensed, number dependant on space and staff.
- Legally unlicensed - No more than two kids for pay (related or unrelated.
- Illegal - Unlicensed, More than two kids for pay
Just curious...are there any states with stricter rules than your state that you are aware of?
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- Family Learning Home - Licensed, 6 kids max.
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Where I am I max out at 5 kids and cant do more.
If I was licensed there would be an opportunity to have 10 kids, but both providers are then run by an agency. The agency also handles payments and such from kids taking a percentage (around 30%), from whatvive been told.
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My coverage for appointments and such is my MIL and she refuses any payment.
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Originally posted by Blackcat31 View PostI am licensed as "group family care" (I have 12 kids) and am not required to have an assistant.
It's a good thing because there is no way I'd be able to afford one. Even with 12 full time kids.
Having to pay min wage and pay employee/employer tax stuff makes it impossible. Half my income would go to an employee and if I only wanted income for 6 kids, I'd opt to downsize and have a smaller group.
My city won't let me have more than 8, which is also the max I can have licensed without an assistant.
But I rarely run full, by choice. But even if I wanted to run full, it would be so expensive to have an assistant. It would be nice though... There would be so many things that would be easier with an assistant.
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Originally posted by Jupadia View PostWhere I am I max out at 5 kids and cant do more.
If I was licensed there would be an opportunity to have 10 kids, but both providers are then run by an agency. The agency also handles payments and such from kids taking a percentage (around 30%), from whatvive been told.
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My coverage for appointments and such is my MIL and she refuses any payment.
Wait...do you mean that you are required to let the govt handle your payments then they take 30%? I wasn't sure if I understood.
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Originally posted by LITTLESTARS View PostHow do you guys get to pay these assistants and how much do you pay .
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Originally posted by Mom2Two View PostWow, only two for legally unlicensed? At that rate, it would never be worth it for a legally unlicensed provider to take part-time family, unless they charged a huge amount of $ for pt time.
Just curious...are there any states with stricter rules than your state that you are aware of?
When I opened I was allowed 12 kids, ten years in they cut it to half. Now, the list of politically and religiously exempt programs has doubled, go figure.- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.
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Originally posted by Mom2Two View PostWow, only two for legally unlicensed? At that rate, it would never be worth it for a legally unlicensed provider to take part-time family, unless they charged a huge amount of $ for pt time.
Just curious...are there any states with stricter rules than your state that you are aware of?
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Originally posted by Mom2Two View PostWait...do you mean that you are required to let the govt handle your payments then they take 30%? I wasn't sure if I understood.
To be licensed in Ontario you have to go through a provite agency (that the Gov dose gove person to to license home daycares). The agency then ends up getting you kids but take up to 30% (depending on agency) per child. Parents pay agency and agency pays you. So you are a provite home daycare who ends up working for an agency. As well you get monthly inspections done by them, and a yearly done by the ministry of education (who in charge of daycare linces here). They also supplie things like daily and monthly schedules for provider or can lend equipment like pack n plays. There are also rules and regulations you have to follow aside from ratios.
For most home providers expessially those with experience it's not worth it to get licensed. Since unlinced providers have no rules and regulations to follow all I have to worry about is ratios. (Though I do more and run it much the way a licensed provider would).
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Originally posted by Rockgirl View PostIn Texas, there’s no such thing as legally unlicensed. You can’t even care for one unrelated child for pay in your home without being either: listed, registered, or licensed.
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