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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cat Herder View Post
    That is why I use porta-crib mattresses for all and buy 12 sheets/fleece blankets at a time (6 kids).

    Standardization makes it easier to clean and nothing from home limits disease transmission.

    When they outgrow their crib, they use their mattress as a nap mat. New baby/new mattress.

    After nap is over I change everything out for the next day then toss in the laundry. Easy/Peasy
    I use cots started at around 18 months. I’ll end up making sure I have 5 sheets per infant. I’m just not okay with non-evidence based changes like these.

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    • #32
      In our state we can sleep when the children are here for the night but do have to be awake during arrival and departure.

      I'm not sure what the difference would be to take a nap during the day or sleep a full night during the night. Either way I probably wouldn't sleep well.

      We have several 24/7 childcare's in the area so I'm sure those providers could use a nap once in awhile.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by hwichlaz View Post
        You spray it on sheets? They want us to wash the bedding daily....even if not soiled. I currently wash it all at once every Friday.
        I wash my sheets daily with blankets, but I spray it on the actual mattresses and PNP's - never had an issue

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LysesKids View Post
          I wash my sheets daily with blankets, but I spray it on the actual mattresses and PNP's - never had an issue
          Adding 5 load of laundry a week isn’t an option in drought stricken California. I’d likely be fined.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by hwichlaz View Post
            Adding 5 load of laundry a week isn’t an option in drought stricken California. I’d likely be fined.
            Here, the city I live charges a set fee for minimum 2000 gallons a month; since I live alone, I never use that much unless babes are here - Where I lived before I was very conservative so I get it; I came from a very eco/artsy town in AR. I still conserve, not just as much as normal because I'm charged regardless... in your position I would just spray sheets too. This stuff smells nice and is non toxic. My families love I use it over Bleach

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            • #36
              Originally posted by LysesKids View Post
              Here, the city I live charges a set fee for minimum 2000 gallons a month; since I live alone, I never use that much unless babes are here - Where I lived before I was very conservative so I get it; I came from a very eco/artsy town in AR. I still conserve, not just as much as normal because I'm charged regardless... in your position I would just spray sheets too. This stuff smells nice and is non toxic. My families love I use it over Bleach
              I think I’m required to change them. But they are small so I’ll make sure to have enough to get through the week and wash all at once. I’m totally ordering that spray for the cribs though.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by hwichlaz View Post
                I think I’m required to change them. But they are small so I’ll make sure to have enough to get through the week and wash all at once. I’m totally ordering that spray for the cribs though.
                It comes in a gallon jug & I put it in spray bottles... it's almost $50 on Amazon ... when it first came out I had to get shipped from Canada it was so unheard of in 2010

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                • #38
                  They're still working put the kinks. They're separating regulations for centers and FCC so if we have separate blankets for them them we only have to wash them weekly, dont have the touch regulation, and once you put the baby down pm their back of they roll themselves over you don't have to roll them back over.

                  Originally posted by hwichlaz View Post
                  As written...they seem Ridiculous. What does sanitizing infant bedding daily accomplish? And if they want me to do a health check every 15 minutes that involves touching a sleeping baby....that’s just mean. Also waking them up by rolling them over .... :P. At least you only have to do that part until parents sign a form.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MarinaVanessa View Post
                    They're still working put the kinks. They're separating regulations for centers and FCC so if we have separate blankets for them them we only have to wash them weekly, dont have the touch regulation, and once you put the baby down pm their back of they roll themselves over you don't have to roll them back over.
                    Those are specifically in the FCCH section proposals. I sure hope they get axed.

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                    • #40
                      My thoughts

                      I have been a home provider for over a year. This includes a time when my own infant was only sleeping 2 hours clips at night. Never for an instant did it ever enter my mind that taking a nap when the kids were sleeping would be ok.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post

                        Can you link to the statute # stating it's illegal in MN please?

                        I've never seen it and want to see how it's worded.

                        I've looked through both the rules and the statutes but must be missing it.
                        Without being able to share the Provider's name with you, because this happened anywhere between March 2018 and July 2018, the Minnesota Department of Human Services issued a Negative Action Order against a provider for failing to provide Supervision while she was asleep. This NAO has been reported several times against providers in the DHS documentation.

                        This is not spelled out in the rules, but the State does take action on it.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by kidsncats View Post
                          Without being able to share the Provider's name with you, because this happened anywhere between March 2018 and July 2018, the Minnesota Department of Human Services issued a Negative Action Order against a provider for failing to provide Supervision while she was asleep. This NAO has been reported several times against providers in the DHS documentation.

                          This is not spelled out in the rules, but the State does take action on it.
                          Yes, I too have read on the DHS "naughty list" several things providers have been cited for that their licensors deemed against the rules but I have also read where many of those same providers have appealed and won their cases due to the fact that licensors can not take upon themselves interpretation of the statues and rules so even though a provider has been cited for it, it is not technically against the rules or statues in MN. Yet.

                          I am sure it will need to be spelled out sooner or later as that seems to be the way our state is headed.

                          I had a licensor several years ago that cited a neighboring provider for not supervising her DCK's outside. They were all 5 yrs old. Licensor said supervision must be within sight AND sound. Provider appealed and won.

                          I've seen the opposite too (provider not winning appeal) where there is no written rule so I was just curious where you had gotten the info. I was hoping you knew where it was written in the statutes simply as a concrete yes/no as to whether it was a rule in MN.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
                            ... many of those same providers have appealed and won their cases due to the fact that licensors can not take upon themselves interpretation of the statues and rules so even though a provider has been cited for it.
                            This true in many states.

                            As far as kidsncats comment goes the provider was probably highly likely to have been cited not for sleeping but for failing to "provide proper supervision" and not just sleeping itself. If a child got hurt or put him/herself into a compromising position while the provider was asleep and or she was asleep and another child was not then she most likely got written up for that as well ... many states consider this lack of supervision where they have regulations stating that children must be supervised which translates to a violation of a child's personal right to safety.

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                            • #44
                              Okay thank you everyone. I don’t have any actual proof but I came early one day and the provider had marks on her face like she had just woken up. My baby is 9 months old. He sleeps next to her couch so I’m sure she was right there. I like her and maybe she just accidentally dozed off. I’m not confrontational so I didn’t say anything and neither did she.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Okay thank you everyone. I don’t have any actual proof but I came early one day and the provider had marks on her face like she had just woken up. My baby is 9 months old. He sleeps next to her couch so I’m sure she was right there. I like her and maybe she just accidentally dozed off. I’m not confrontational so I didn’t say anything and neither did she.
                                This has happened to me and I did not sleep! Sometimes the way I lie down to watch a show or have my face resting on a pillow or on my hand creates these marks. She may not have been napping so just keep that in mind

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