Have you ever had a parent want to stay for the day to see how you run things? Do you (or would you) allow it?
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Originally posted by dreamer View PostHave you ever had a parent want to stay for the day to see how you run things? Do you (or would you) allow it?
No can do here..
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I had a parent want to do that as they were "considering" my program as prospective parents..... I declined them the spot.
That said I do allow parents (of currently enrolled students) to come on field trips, to share something (a hobby/skill, something cultural or for the holidays their family may celebrate). I also welcome parents to walk their child in and get them settled in for the day.
Also I have been trying two different mediums to communicate with parents:
1) Brightwheel, which gives a really great window into our day and rhythm at school and sends push notifications to the parents (once they sign up). Parents can only downloads pictures if only their child is in it - so a group shot cannot be automatically downloaded. I also use it for billing. You can also use it for a daily tracker (naps, diaper changes, potty, etc.
2) Shutterfly private share site which also gives a great glimpse to our day, allows for a message board, polls, etc. It is very easy to use but does not do billing.
I am finding parents want to feel connected and like they know and "see" what their child is doing all day while away from them - I get that so I try to meet them half way. I want them to know that as well so we can better partner together.
Maybe say to DCM that visitors can be very disruptive to the flow of the day for the children but you appreciate her desire to better know the flow of the day. Ask her if she would be willing to pilot an app (of your choice) which you feel will increase home/daycare communications......
Of course that is only if you feel like doing that. I am happy I have utilized pilot families for the two options I was considering some of the feedback has been great, and it has also given me the opportunity to see any kinks I dislike.
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Back when I opened I interviewed a family, liked them and offered them a spot. She asked if she could come one day with dcg to meet the other kids. I usually offer this to incoming families, but omg this time it went completely out of control!!
Mom ended up staying for 5 HOURS And being new, I had no idea how to kick her out!! It was awful - she was sooo obnoxious.! I finally said it was time to go when her husband showed up unannounced, kicked off his shoes and got on the floor with their child and started talking in a baby voice!! Needless to say, they did not get the spot.
Now I still offer incoming families a chance to visit before their first day, but it is set as a half hour appointment. Parents also know that if kids are acting up/off (as they tend to do when visitors are here) then the visit will be cut short so I can refocus the group. I typically do the visit when we are outside. And I only ever offer a visit after they have given me their enrollment paperwork and their deposit.
I think you need to do what you feel most comfortable with. I enjoy the 30 minutes getting to know the new parents, it gives me a little insight into our future working relationship. I say go with your gut because as City Garden said, there are other ways to keep parents in the loop without them in your home
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Originally posted by dreamer View PostHave you ever had a parent want to stay for the day to see how you run things? Do you (or would you) allow it?
Regulations could very well stop a parent from sticking around also - if the parent complains, just tell them you aren't willing to lose your license because they haven't been cleared to be around the kids. If it's that much of an issue that the parent needs to stay longer than 15-30 minutes then it's a big red flag to me and I would not offer a spot, I mean our business is built on trust.
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Originally posted by dreamer View PostHave you ever had a parent want to stay for the day to see how you run things? Do you (or would you) allow it?
"While I understand that you would want to "see me in action" before leaving your child for the first time, I cannot allow it for several reasons.
First is the privacy of the other children and their family's. I do diaper changes, deal with medical issues/conditions, and discuss their home life with them on a daily basis. I have a strict privacy policy and having another adult around violates the trust between my clients and myself.
Second, you are a stranger to the children and their parents. Please consider how you would feel if your child were in care and I allowed a strange adult to the daycare to observe your child.
Third, I consider the trust my clients place in me the cornerstone of our relationship. In a childcare relationship I am asking that a client trust me completely with their child. I ask for honesty and open communication. Asking me to prove myself above and beyond my criminal background check, photo identification, insurance information, and references is not something I am willing to do.
I do understand if you need to find other arrangements. Just know that I value the children's safety and security above all else and allowing adults in to observe them is not part of the safe and secure environment I promise them each and every day."
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Originally posted by LysesKids View Postyes I have had people ask and I also said no; For one it totally disrupts the kids, and two, It's a big liability. I don't have time, nor do I want to watch them when my job is to care for the kids. The only time I did, the parent stole a bunch of stuff from my bathroom... NEVER AGAIN
Regulations could very well stop a parent from sticking around also - if the parent complains, just tell them you aren't willing to lose your license because they haven't been cleared to be around the kids. If it's that much of an issue that the parent needs to stay longer than 15-30 minutes then it's a big red flag to me and I would not offer a spot, I mean our business is built on trust.
I use the reasoning of liability and privacy (BC's advice).
I did it once. Once. When I first opened. Never again.
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Originally posted by dreamer View PostHave you ever had a parent want to stay for the day to see how you run things? Do you (or would you) allow it?
Dense in that I kept stressing how much time we spend outside and then when she brought him for care, she brought him without any footwear (very cold and wet mornings). Like, wtf? Then when I told her I'd need snow pants (I'm in Canada, right), she responded with "Oh, I thought maybe only splash pants", which would be totally useless for 4+ months of the year.
And very, very neurotic. Can't say that enough.
I decided after her that no more visits, and to deter people in a way that would make me look responsible (rather than trying to hide something), I'd explain that any adult spending more than about 5 minutes (for pu/do) at my daycare would have to submit to me a recent police record check.
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Originally posted by debbiedoeszip View PostI had a client who wanted to visit the daycare prior to committing to see what it was like here. I did allow it (for one hour) but one visit turned into two and a request for a third (which I didn't allow) and she turned out to be the most neurotic (but also dense) mom yet.
Dense in that I kept stressing how much time we spend outside and then when she brought him for care, she brought him without any footwear (very cold and wet mornings). Like, wtf? Then when I told her I'd need snow pants (I'm in Canada, right), she responded with "Oh, I thought maybe only splash pants", which would be totally useless for 4+ months of the year.
And very, very neurotic. Can't say that enough.
I decided after her that no more visits, and to deter people in a way that would make me look responsible (rather than trying to hide something), I'd explain that any adult spending more than about 5 minutes (for pu/do) at my daycare would have to submit to me a recent police record check.
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I had a parent who hung around for half an hour because she "never gets to see him play with friends"
I wouldn't allow it - either they trust me or they don't. I'd use the excuses already mentioned: background check, insurance/liability, and confidentiality.
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Along with the reasons posted, I tell parents when asking to "stay for a while and watch" that the child will be expected to follow my rules/routines/expectations so it is unfair to make them think otherwise. Therefore, it is useless for parents to stick around creating an unfair expectation of doing their own thing for the child.
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Originally posted by Blackcat31 View PostMy reply is usually:
"While I understand that you would want to "see me in action" before leaving your child for the first time, I cannot allow it for several reasons.
First is the privacy of the other children and their family's. I do diaper changes, deal with medical issues/conditions, and discuss their home life with them on a daily basis. I have a strict privacy policy and having another adult around violates the trust between my clients and myself.
Second, you are a stranger to the children and their parents. Please consider how you would feel if your child were in care and I allowed a strange adult to the daycare to observe your child.
Third, I consider the trust my clients place in me the cornerstone of our relationship. In a childcare relationship I am asking that a client trust me completely with their child. I ask for honesty and open communication. Asking me to prove myself above and beyond my criminal background check, photo identification, insurance information, and references is not something I am willing to do.
I do understand if you need to find other arrangements. Just know that I value the children's safety and security above all else and allowing adults in to observe them is not part of the safe and secure environment I promise them each and every day."
I do a transition where parents are here for an hour with their kids and that is it. They basically sit in a corner and fill out paperwork, they do not interact with any of the kids, not even their own. That is as much time as I offer a stranger in my home.
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Originally posted by Blackcat31 View PostMy reply is usually:
"While I understand that you would want to "see me in action" before leaving your child for the first time, I cannot allow it for several reasons.
First is the privacy of the other children and their family's. I do diaper changes, deal with medical issues/conditions, and discuss their home life with them on a daily basis. I have a strict privacy policy and having another adult around violates the trust between my clients and myself.
Second, you are a stranger to the children and their parents. Please consider how you would feel if your child were in care and I allowed a strange adult to the daycare to observe your child.
Third, I consider the trust my clients place in me the cornerstone of our relationship. In a childcare relationship I am asking that a client trust me completely with their child. I ask for honesty and open communication. Asking me to prove myself above and beyond my criminal background check, photo identification, insurance information, and references is not something I am willing to do.
I do understand if you need to find other arrangements. Just know that I value the children's safety and security above all else and allowing adults in to observe them is not part of the safe and secure environment I promise them each and every day."
I have still enrolled some who I said no to. Most move on.
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