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  • Any Ideas About This 12mo Who Screams Bloody Murder Before Sleeping?

    I have a great part-time family with two great kids. I'm also lucky to be one of those people who isn't fazed by the sound of crying babies.

    Their younger child just turned a year old. She has always screamed bloody murder before falling asleep, but in recent weeks she's been screaming for much longer (1+ hours--right now she's been going for 2 hours and is hoarse, has given herself hiccups, and is still at it). She also doesn't want to be soothed when it's going on. She stands up and screams in what looks like outrage to me; if I come back in and try to hold her or feed her, she escalates the screaming and thrashes when I touch her. She does the same with the parents. She's also such a light sleeper that, when she does fall asleep, even silently sticking your head into the room to check on her will make her pop up in the crib and start screaming again. This is in both the daytime and the nighttime, every. single. time she sleeps.

    She's weaning herself and only wants solids; her parents can only get a few ounces of formula into her each day and she'll hardly take any at all from me, but I make sure she's dry and fed before putting her down to nap.

    It's a little disruptive for me because the screaming keeps the other kids on edge even from across the house with doors closed, but honestly I'm not too concerned about it for my own sake because she's usually not with me in the daytime and the family is so great to have. I mean, it's too bad that she's making herself miserable, but as long as she's clean and fed and I can't find anything wrong with her, I've done my duty and don't see the need to knock myself out trying to force her to sleep. The parents, though, are exhausted because of how she screams through the night. They keep her in a crib in their bedroom for daytime naps and in a crib in the dining room at night, to try to avoid waking her, but it's not working. Their older child hasn't had any issues like this.

    Any ideas about a cause or solution?

  • #2
    Yikes. Is she eventually sleeping? I'm not sure the initial cause but she has to be way over tired now. Other than consistency I have no suggestions, but would encourage parents to talk to their pediatrician just in case there's an underlying health issue.

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    • #3
      I had her 9am to 3pm today and she slept maybe 15 minutes after 2 solid hours of screaming.

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      • #4
        Yikes. You mentioned that DCG is weaning herself and only wants solids. Any chance of allergies making it worse?

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        • #5
          Good question--for a while the mom thought it could be gas from a burp after feeding, but now she hardly ever takes a bottle before bed. I'll ask her about the potential for allergies; the mom's lactose-intolerant.

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          • #6
            If mom is lactose-intolerant, it's likely she is too. If a child is fed, clean, has touch time, etc there's no reason for screaming for hours... eeks. I'd suspect a health issue.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              If mom is lactose-intolerant, it's likely she is too. If a child is fed, clean, has touch time, etc there's no reason for screaming for hours... eeks. I'd suspect a health issue.
              This was my thought. I can see a child crying for 10-15 minutes to settle themselves. But screaming for hours and not sleeping? I would be at the Ped's wanting answers.

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              • #8
                Thanks--I'll talk to her about it tonight. Do you think it'd be worth it to suggest a dairy-free diet for 3 weeks? (Three weeks, right? I went dairy-free to see if that was causing my daughter's eczema, and it was two weeks to get the lactose out of my system, if I remember.)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pestle View Post
                  Thanks--I'll talk to her about it tonight. Do you think it'd be worth it to suggest a dairy-free diet for 3 weeks? (Three weeks, right? I went dairy-free to see if that was causing my daughter's eczema, and it was two weeks to get the lactose out of my system, if I remember.)
                  I currently have a child who's Dr recommended trying a dairy free diet to ease some tummy/toileting issues they've been having and the Dr said it may take anywhere from 30-60 days after removal for the effects of dairy to be gone from your system completely so I DO think suggesting mom try some types of elimination for common food issues is a good idea but I think it may be longer than 3 weeks before you'd see any changes.. at this age, part of her behavior is now treading on habit as well as the original issue too so...

                  Poor kid. Poor you for having to listen to it.

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                  • #10
                    Stop going in. How often are you going in? It is very possible that you are interrupting the falling asleep process by going in. Once I put a child to bed I will go in once at the 15min mark, soothe and pat back and that is it. It takes a few days but they eventually get it that they are in here to sleep.

                    It could be a dairy intolerance but as a mom of two kids with it they have never screamed for two hours straight. That seems excessive especially if they are pleasant while awake. Tummy troubles don't suddenly appear during nap time know what I mean?

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                    • #11
                      If there are no medical issues or pain of some sort and this is behavioral, then i agree with Ariana that you should stop going in. I would keep her room dark, cool, and have white noise and/or a fan. Be super consistent and matter of fact about nap time. Lay her down, say good night, and leave.

                      I know it might be tough, but if she was able to have her own room at home so her sleep environment could be really consistent, at least until she grows out of this, i think that might be very helpful. I think sleep spaces should be sanctuaries for them to go relax and have some space to themselves. In her case, she is being moved around at home so she has no "santcuary". If mom and dad were able to give her the room for awhile or work something else out, i think that may help. Of course, all this being said if she doesnt have an underlyingedical issue.

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                      • #12
                        I am not comfortable encouraging providers to NOT perform physical checks on children that age.

                        Many states, mine included, require me to do physical checks on sleeping children every 10-15 minutes.

                        Using a video monitor is helpful but not allowed to replace physically checking on a child during certain intervals.

                        I understand it's disrupting her ability to fall asleep but physically checking in on her is far more important.

                        It only takes a second for her to become entangled in blankets, clothing or anything else she may have access to.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
                          Many states, mine included, require me to do physical checks on sleeping children every 10-15 minutes.
                          Yes; TN requires checks every 15 min.

                          They are in a 2-bedrm rental and I'll probably lose them soon; they have a third baby on the way and want to buy in a good school district (so, not ours--we're zoned for two public elementary schools that are both in the bottom 5% for the entire state).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
                            I am not comfortable encouraging providers to NOT perform physical checks on children that age.

                            Many states, mine included, require me to do physical checks on sleeping children every 10-15 minutes.

                            Using a video monitor is helpful but not allowed to replace physically checking on a child during certain intervals.

                            I understand it's disrupting her ability to fall asleep but physically checking in on her is far more important.

                            It only takes a second for her to become entangled in blankets, clothing or anything else she may have access to.
                            Just to clarify I do a 15 minute check while awake and then check on them when they are sleeping. The kids I have do not have anything in the pack and play with them. I allow blankets for kids who are good sleepers only because the tossing and turning creates a hazard. I have only had one child that took longer than 30 min to fall asleep and I ended up having to term after two weeks of constant crying...sleeping and awake.

                            I wouldn't recommend going in more than once every 15 minutes. I definitely don't advocate never checking on a child (I said I only checked once at 15 min but meant while they are awake I check every 15 minutes thats it not more than that) I just know that constant going in every few minutes can be detrimental to the falling asleep process and this is what has worked for me

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
                              I am not comfortable encouraging providers to NOT perform physical checks on children that age.

                              Many states, mine included, require me to do physical checks on sleeping children every 10-15 minutes.
                              At my last inspection I was told that I need to be in sight of all sleeping children under 2 at all times . Over 2 must be checked at least every 15 minutes .

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