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  • Are You a "Teacher"

    Just read this on another site.

    The (Federal) Office of Child Care (OCC) has asked the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) to re-define child care workers (and preschool teachers, teacher assistants, education administrators) as "teachers". The OCC requested this official change "emphasizing in their rationale new changes in the CCDBG legislation, increased education of these positions and the professionalism of the workforce." But the BLS has denied the request. Now the OCC is appealing and there is a comment period that ends September 20th.

    It sounds to me like if the OCC gets this new definition, child care workers will need to have the same degree as teachers. That will seriously decrease the number of qualified workers, not to mention raise prices.

    Here are their talking points:

     The child care worker classification should be removed from the service occupations. All ECE teaching classifications should be under education.
     The job title should be early childhood teacher.
     The US Department of Health and Human Services is proposing that early childhood teacher have two categories, birth to three, three to kindergarten. (Another potential option might also be birth to kindergarten for those working with mixed age groups.) Teachers of older aged children are classified into categories by age so early childhood teachers should be classified similarly.
     Child care and education cannot be separated.
     The early care and education field does not see itself in the current categories. They see themselves as teachers and respond accordingly in surveys already being conducted by the federal government on these occupations.
     This change will allow the federal government to gather more accurate statistics that separate Kindergarten and Prekindergarten teachers in school settings.
     Current data is very difficult for researchers and policy makers and creates challenges for states who want annual data that is reflective of the early care and education sector. Most do not have resources to do regular salary surveys or do not have registries that encompass the whole workforce.



    You can make comments by sending an email to

    soc@bls.gov with "2018 SOC" in the subject line

    You can read the entire statement here:


  • #2
    Surely this is just to change the nomenclature so communities/employers/government understand the legitimate work we're all doing and the skills we're bringing to the job. Assistants/aides don't always need to have or be working toward a degree, do they? Requiring a degree would price a huge number of families out of child care. The care providers would have to jack their fees way up in order to cover the courses for several years.

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    • #3
      Thanks for sharing. I'm not a teacher, I don't want to be a teacher, and I don't want my child under 4 or 5 years old to be in the care of a teacher. I want my child in a home like environment, and so do my clients. This trend toward formal education for babies is upsetting.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Leigh View Post
        I'm not a teacher, I don't want to be a teacher, and I don't want my child under 4 or 5 years old to be in the care of a teacher. I want my child in a home like environment, and so do my clients. This trend toward formal education for babies is upsetting.
        I'm from an unschooling family and we do Montessori at home with our child, from infancy. It's wrong to think "home" and "school" are starkly divided, and "parent" and "teacher" are just as starkly divided. It's wrong to spend the early years distracting your kids with noisy toys and TV, and when they reach age 5 turn your kids over to a school system and tune out. It's wrong to discourage kids from learning by equating "learning" with "workbooks, lectures, desks." Home is where education happens. Every adult who guides a child's learning process is a teacher. And an adult who teaches at a child is no teacher at all.

        I'm sure that's not what your home is like, Leigh, but I dislike the popular perspective on home vs. school.

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        • #5
          Nothing surprising about this at all.

          QRIS anyone?!?! That is the whole point.... to require providers to ready the kids for school. To educate them.

          Slowly most state rules and regulations are focusing more and more on EDUCATION components and less on care components.

          Many states no longer list child care under the Department of Health and Human Services but instead redefined it to meet the requirements to be listed under the Department of Education.

          This change is coming for everyone sooner or later.
          it started off as "optional"
          then required ONLY IF you do x, y or z
          and soon it WILL be mandatory. for all.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pestle View Post
            Surely this is just to change the nomenclature so communities/employers/government understand the legitimate work we're all doing and the skills we're bringing to the job. Assistants/aides don't always need to have or be working toward a degree, do they? J***Requiring a degree would price a huge number of families out of child care.**** The care providers would have to jack their fees way up in order to cover the courses for several years.
            *emphasis mine. YES!! You know what happens when day care employees finally get a degree?! They LEAVE because they can't pay off student loans making $9 an hour.
            Until they address how providers are going to make the amount of money necessary to fund the degree, they are creating a bad situation.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pestle View Post
              I'm from an unschooling family and we do Montessori at home with our child, from infancy. It's wrong to think "home" and "school" are starkly divided, and "parent" and "teacher" are just as starkly divided. It's wrong to spend the early years distracting your kids with noisy toys and TV, and when they reach age 5 turn your kids over to a school system and tune out. It's wrong to discourage kids from learning by equating "learning" with "workbooks, lectures, desks." Home is where education happens. Every adult who guides a child's learning process is a teacher. And an adult who teaches at a child is no teacher at all.

              I'm sure that's not what your home is like, Leigh, but I dislike the popular perspective on home vs. school.
              I totally agree. When I first started family child care I didn't like the term Teacher because I felt that what I do is so much more than teaching. But considering how teachers get so little respect, early childhood teachers less, and family child care providers least of all, I've started calling myself an Early Childhood Educator.

              I heard the term Educarer at a workshop and if I were Queen of the Universe I'd make everyone use that term. But I'm still waiting for my coronation. ::

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              • #8
                On the other side of things, it bugs the heck out of me that 20 yr olds with 2 year degrees are called Teachers just like my husband and me, who have 4 year degrees. Other professions have titles that indicate degree of education (CNA vs RN for nursing, RDA vs DDS for dentistry, etc) I think the field of education should have similar designations. JMO...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pestle View Post
                  I'm from an unschooling family and we do Montessori at home with our child, from infancy. It's wrong to think "home" and "school" are starkly divided, and "parent" and "teacher" are just as starkly divided. It's wrong to spend the early years distracting your kids with noisy toys and TV, and when they reach age 5 turn your kids over to a school system and tune out. It's wrong to discourage kids from learning by equating "learning" with "workbooks, lectures, desks." Home is where education happens. Every adult who guides a child's learning process is a teacher. And an adult who teaches at a child is no teacher at all.

                  I'm sure that's not what your home is like, Leigh, but I dislike the popular perspective on home vs. school.
                  No, my home is not like that. My home is a place where a child is nurtured, plays, and discovers things on their own. I do think that home and school are divided and that with the ridiculous expectations that the federal government wants to put on the under 5 set, that it should stay that way. Curriculum for a 6 month old is the most ridiculous thing I could imagine. I do nurture learning, I do, but I do NOT ever want to be classed as a teacher, nor can I see ANY benefit to it. It just opens my occupation up to more regulation and more demands of forcing kids into what they're not ready for.

                  I DO teach my kids, on THEIR terms. I don't require that they're doing anything by a certain age. When they government considers us teachers, it WILL be workbooks, lectures, and desks. These legislators have NO idea of how a child develops nor about how detrimental it is for kids to be forced to learn in such ways.

                  That said, I do believe that ECE is largely the job of the parent. I teach my own child, and it's fun for him. When daycare kids ask about something, I teach them about it. I give them tools to discover for themselves.

                  In the end, though, my job is to keep kids safe and to nurture. It's what my parents want, and it's what I wanted for my own child when I used daycare. I don't like the idea of planned curriculum for kids under Kindergarten, I don't feel it's appropriate.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pestle View Post
                    I'm from an unschooling family and we do Montessori at home with our child, from infancy. It's wrong to think "home" and "school" are starkly divided, and "parent" and "teacher" are just as starkly divided. It's wrong to spend the early years distracting your kids with noisy toys and TV, and when they reach age 5 turn your kids over to a school system and tune out. It's wrong to discourage kids from learning by equating "learning" with "workbooks, lectures, desks." Home is where education happens. Every adult who guides a child's learning process is a teacher. And an adult who teaches at a child is no teacher at all.

                    I'm sure that's not what your home is like, Leigh, but I dislike the popular perspective on home vs. school.
                    You and I are very similar ... I homeschooled (much of it unschooled/Eclectic) and I am Montessori in nature for my babies ( yep inc the floor beds)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Play Care View Post
                      *emphasis mine. YES!! You know what happens when day care employees finally get a degree?! They LEAVE because they can't pay off student loans making $9 an hour.
                      Until they address how providers are going to make the amount of money necessary to fund the degree, they are creating a bad situation.
                      Many of the college courses I took to earn my degree were out of pocket expenses I paid for. myself but many of them were paid for by my area child care QRIS program.

                      It was incentive to enroll. I was monetarily rewarded for completion as well.


                      Originally posted by AmyKidsCo View Post
                      On the other side of things, it bugs the heck out of me that 20 yr olds with 2 year degrees are called Teachers just like my husband and me, who have 4 year degrees. Other professions have titles that indicate degree of education (CNA vs RN for nursing, RDA vs DDS for dentistry, etc) I think the field of education should have similar designations. JMO...
                      totally agree!

                      Originally posted by Leigh View Post
                      I don't like the idea of planned curriculum for kids under Kindergarten, I don't feel it's appropriate.
                      ! I have to have written and planned curriculum covering all indicators of progress/learning domains (including assessments) for infants.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
                        Many of the college courses I took to earn my degree were out of pocket expenses I paid for. myself but many of them were paid for by my area child care QRIS program.

                        It was incentive to enroll. I was monetarily rewarded for completion as well.




                        totally agree!



                        ! I have to have written and planned curriculum covering all indicators of progress/learning domains (including assessments) for infants.
                        I'd hate that! I do work hard to challenge my kids-I have a therapist who I work with on emotional issues, I have a Physical therapist here twice a week, a home health nurse, birth to three, Occupational therapist and feeding and speech therapy here, too. I don't ever let a kid "slip through the cracks" here. The kids do learn here to do their best always, but I hate the government setting those limits for kids-they develop at their own pace, and that's how it should be. Our entire day is curriculum here, IMO. A walk to the park can be a science lesson, a game can be a math lesson, a book can be a lesson in philosophy. I will never support the government requiring standards for kids under kindergarten level. They all seem to get there on their own.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Leigh View Post
                          I'd hate that! I do work hard to challenge my kids-I have a therapist who I work with on emotional issues, I have a Physical therapist here twice a week, a home health nurse, birth to three, Occupational therapist and feeding and speech therapy here, too. I don't ever let a kid "slip through the cracks" here. The kids do learn here to do their best always, but I hate the government setting those limits for kids-they develop at their own pace, and that's how it should be. Our entire day is curriculum here, IMO. A walk to the park can be a science lesson, a game can be a math lesson, a book can be a lesson in philosophy. I will never support the government requiring standards for kids under kindergarten level. They all seem to get there on their own.

                          The day just might come when kids will be required to be in school by age 2.
                          Children are little angels, even when they are little devils.
                          They are also our future.

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                          • #14
                            I believe that is what you would write in as the curriculum- the care giving interactions you mentioned. You would plan to read books with goals of developing social domain, giving the opportunity to learn language, concepts, etc. You would record what you observed to indicate a need for this activity (child has been observed reaching for books- showing an interest, etc). You would plan which books you would have available and why (you wouldn't have the lord of the rings out for Baby). You would note and later record what Baby's response was- she smiled and batted at the book, looking me in the eye indicating social development. ... Stuff like that. You don't have to make a paint by numbers activity or something. That's how I was taught to plan curriculum. But I don't have experience with any mandated forms so Idk if they force what your curriculum is... Do they force it to be academic?

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                            • #15
                              I mean, I mentioned books so now it sounds academic! But, any normal care giving activities can be planned curriculum. Like the walk to the park example. Who: Johnny. Domain: Cognitive. Goals: Start forming questions and looking for answers, scientific processes. Why: He was observed talking about ants that were seen at home. He was curious and showed an interest in them. He often prefers to sit with trains and cars- this is a good opportunity to reinforce a new interest. What questions will I ask to facilitate: Johnny, where do you think the ants live? etc etc. Observations from activity: Johnny said, "I wonder if ants can eat each other?" and he watched them with a magnifying glass. He agreed to research more at the library next week.... etc etc

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