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  • #16
    Originally posted by Second Home View Post
    Training Requirements
    – Effective January 1, 2016, complete approved training in supporting breastfeeding practices
    (if approved for infants and toddler care) and three clock hours of approved training in complying with the Americans
    with Disabilities Act.

    I bet in this training you would hear that you can not turn away someone because they want to breastfeed in your home .
    Breastfeeding mothers are not covered under the disability act.
    http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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    • #17
      Originally posted by nannyde View Post
      What is their definition of a toddler? With extended breastfeeding a child all the way up to five could be breast feeding.

      This is going to lead to many providers only accepting formula fed babies.

      If I had this regulation, I wouldn't accept any breast fed babies. I don't want to be forced to do onsite feeding. (I don't do onsite feeding for any child whether breast, bottle, cup etc. Nothing personal.)
      Here a child is a toddler only from 12-24 months.

      ON their 2nd birthday, they are considered preschool age.

      I don't think providers are going to be able to only accept formula fed babies as the regulation in this case state "When approved for infants and toddlers" which to me, means ANY infant/toddler.

      If it is a loophole, I bet the close that one up pretty quickly.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Second Home View Post

        I bet in this training you would hear that you can not turn away someone because they want to breastfeed in your home .
        Providers are just going to interview either on the phone or in person and when the subject of breastfeeding comes up they will just not enroll the kid. They won't give a reason. They will just not choose the family.
        http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Second Home View Post
          For us a child under 2 is a toddler per our regs , so this would apply to all infants up to age 2 .

          It does not matter if the mother does not want privacy it is that we must have it available with running water . We all know how differently each person interprets regulations if not spelled out exactly what is expected . One person says just a cloth to cover up another may require a closed door room for privacy.
          They will probably leave it up to the parent to decided what PRIVACY means to them.

          Originally posted by Second Home View Post

          I bet in this training you would hear that you can not turn away someone because they want to breastfeed in your home .
          Originally posted by nannyde View Post
          Breastfeeding mothers are not covered under the disability act.
          But I bet, it WILL be considered discrimination according to QRIS ... any of the star rating or accreditation programs. :dislike:

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          • #20
            OMG, I am so glad I never opened in MD which had been the original plan in 2000... I moved right over the state line & opened instead and then of course I have moved a few more times since. MD has some of the craziest regs I have ever seen. The TV/videos thing is fine by me because I don't have a Tellie anyway, but I am infants/Toddlers only under 2 and this would kill me as I do have moms that breast feed in my home; I wonder if being certified as a Postpartum doula would count as the training... I mean that is part of what we have to know when we get the certification... it's a lot of classes

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            • #21
              I took the access to running water mean that they can breastfeed in any room, as long as there is an outlet, some privacy, & they can get to a faucet, but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the same room (maybe a little shed in the backyard with an old fashioned water pump & an extension cord running to the house?).

              Thank you, EXCELS! And Universal Preschool, which is being pushed here. The whole situation is screwed up, I just don't understand what is happening to family providers, why the state seems to be so against us (speaking as the former).

              And as family providers are only allowed 2 under 2, and if universal preschool does happen, which would start at 3 or 4, that would basically leave before & after school care. Where's the money in that?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Naptime yet? View Post
                I took the access to running water mean that they can breastfeed in any room, as long as there is an outlet, some privacy, & they can get to a faucet, but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the same room (maybe a little shed in the backyard with an old fashioned water pump & an extension cord running to the house?).

                Thank you, EXCELS! And Universal Preschool, which is being pushed here. The whole situation is screwed up, I just don't understand what is happening to family providers, why the state seems to be so against us (speaking as the former).

                And as family providers are only allowed 2 under 2, and if universal preschool does happen, which would start at 3 or 4, that would basically leave before & after school care. Where's the money in that?
                The state already requires running water as a minimum standard. Why would they put running water in this reg?

                I don't want a breastfeeding mom at my kitchen sink. I don't want them handwashing or cleaning their equipment in my sink.
                http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                • #23
                  states and parents dont operate logical things

                  I have a room set up for breastfeeding mothers it has a rocker a ottoman
                  it has a green hose and the water on and off is outside. The hose goes through a hole in my screen. When its 40 below outside I just get sick of the complaints. To get it running again I just insulate and heat the hose. I make sure to get the mothers a warm blanket. I also do not charge anything extra for this, I also have to keep one child awake 1 hour because they take that room that the child sleeps in. Don't forget mom thinks it is a good time for everyone else to behave because they are on her time don't you know.::

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by nannyde View Post
                    Providers are just going to interview either on the phone or in person and when the subject of breastfeeding comes up they will just not enroll the kid. They won't give a reason. They will just not choose the family.
                    I'm pretty sure they'll check to see if you do have the requirements. I live in a state that you can operate without a license or with a license and more children. For those who have a license, including centers, you have to have a breast feeding ROOM. They actually check for this and you can be closed down if you don't have it or the room is used for any thing else. It can't be like a closet, some of the closets around here are HUGE, or any thing like that. It has to be a room.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Naptime yet? View Post
                      I took the access to running water mean that they can breastfeed in any room, as long as there is an outlet, some privacy, & they can get to a faucet, but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the same room (maybe a little shed in the backyard with an old fashioned water pump & an extension cord running to the house?).

                      Thank you, EXCELS! And Universal Preschool, which is being pushed here. The whole situation is screwed up, I just don't understand what is happening to family providers, why the state seems to be so against us (speaking as the former).

                      And as family providers are only allowed 2 under 2, and if universal preschool does happen, which would start at 3 or 4, that would basically leave before & after school care. Where's the money in that?
                      I actually live in a state that has universal preschool for three year olds. I must say it's pretty clear to me that this will one day be a national thing. It wouldn't surprise me if they took two year olds one day. I know of a lot of districts that take the BABIES of teachers in special daycares that run by the board.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I actually live in a state that has universal preschool for three year olds. I must say it's pretty clear to me that this will one day be a national thing. It wouldn't surprise me if they took two year olds one day. I know of a lot of districts that take the BABIES of teachers in special daycares that run by the board.
                        They will absolutely do two year olds. I think Georgia and one other Midwestern state does.. maybe Oklahoma
                        http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
                          If those rules/regulations came my way (to MN) I'd stop taking infants and toddlers in a heart beat.

                          I have an entire house used for child care and I couldn't reasonably manage the breast feeding rules/regulations.


                          I DO like the technology rules though.

                          I've been a long-time advocate of NO screen time in child care.

                          Even "educational" technology.
                          I don't mind the breastfeeding, but I do take non nappers. I let them watch a 1.5 hour movie for their "rest period." Often several will fall asleep, but I don't require it.
                          We don't have actual connection to any cable service, so no commercials, but they love disney movies and even the barbie princess movies.
                          So for different reasons, that also would not work for me.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by nannyde View Post
                            and accommodates a mother’s need for privacy.

                            Have any of you providers who offer onsite breastfeeding had a mother who wanted privacy?
                            Actually, no, and I have had a LOT of BF moms do so at my home. They just use a cover up. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that I have never had that request. I think that goes a little far for a home daycare. I suppose I could set one up in the nursery upstairs, but that seems ridiculous.
                            Are we supposed to let them access non daycare areas?? Or build a special room?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I'm pretty sure they'll check to see if you do have the requirements. I live in a state that you can operate without a license or with a license and more children. For those who have a license, including centers, you have to have a breast feeding ROOM. They actually check for this and you can be closed down if you don't have it or the room is used for any thing else. It can't be like a closet, some of the closets around here are HUGE, or any thing like that. It has to be a room.
                              In my state, you are not required to do/have things that do not meet the needs of your clients.

                              For example I do not transport so I do not have to have the transportation training.

                              If I don't provide care for infants, I am not required to have a crib safety checklist.

                              So I would not be required to have a room for breastfeeding moms if I don't provide services to infants and toddlers.

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                              • #30
                                Privacy, electrical outlet and running water for someone to express milk at my house :confused: I guess they can have the tree house, garden hose and an electrical extension cord.

                                It is just as close to their own homes as mine during their lunch hour. Why would I host expressing milk?????? I don't mind hosting a separate small playroom freezer for expressed breast milk storage (which is my reg)... but hosting the actual expression too? I don't do adult care.

                                Forget it. Way out of hand.
                                - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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