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  • #16
    I onestly dont know if id continue care either as this sounds like something just waiting to happen!

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    • #17
      Dear parent,
      Due to your actions following my attempt to get medical help for your child yesterday, our childcare agreement is terminated immediately.

      Signed,
      concerned provider.

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      • #18
        sahm-

        This is your answer! You know you have been struggling with overload there. You need to terminate this family. Baby cries all the time, older kids run wild, parents bring kids sick, and now this.

        If you let this family go, can you scale your assitant to part time or let her go altogether? That is what I would do.

        Tough decision, but it means PEACE!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Lilbutterflie View Post
          Oh my goodness, how scary!! I am so sorry you have had such a scary experience, I can't even imagine.

          This is no offense to you... and I do realize that in emergencies sometimes you do not always react how you should... but 911 should have been called immediately after the child stopped breathing. In my CPR class we learned that when a child stops breathing; and you have an assistant (as you stated); the very first thing you do is send them to call 911. Then, you start the steps of CPR. This would have avoided all the frustration with the mom; b/c she would have been called SECOND after 911; telling her an ambulence was on it's way to assist her child b/c he/she had stopped breathing.

          About the mom, I just can't imagine being a parent told their child had stopped breathing; and saying "I'll call the father to see if he can leave work." Wow. Just unbelievable. I would keep following up with the parents to ask for his diagnosis. I would INSIST on a written diagnosis prior to him returning to your care. Do the research on that diagnosis to see if he is well enough and safe to return to daycare.
          Yes, this. I am surprised this is not the chain of events that occurred.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Crystal View Post
            Yes, this. I am surprised this is not the chain of events that occurred.
            Few people have accesss to this training outside of major cities and "wealthy" States....

            Alot of classes just breeze over the steps of CPR....not actual scenarios of events like in a daycare environment.

            I WISH there was easier access to GOOD training for everyone....
            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Catherder View Post
              Few people have accesss to this training outside of major cities and "wealthy" States....

              Alot of classes just breeze over the steps of CPR....not actual scenarios of events like in a daycare environment.

              I WISH there was easier access to GOOD training for everyone....
              I am so thankful this post came up; it is a great reminder for CPR basics!

              Now all of us reading have been reminded to send someone to call 911 and then start doing CPR if a child stops breathing. If you are alone (as I am all day); you should do 5 sets (1 set= 2 breaths, 30 compressions) of CPR and THEN call 911 (regardless if child is breathing again or not). After calling 911, resume CPR if child is still not breathing.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Crystal View Post
                Yes, this. I am surprised this is not the chain of events that occurred.
                It happened very quickly, and what seemed like forever was only seconds. I knew that in a coughing fit opening a window to let the cold air to them would help, so as I was patting his back and checking his mouth for foreign substance I told my assistant to open the window. We were literally within seconds of calling 911. I probably still should have, especially after the way the parents reacted, but I guess once I got him crying and breathing I was just so relieved my head was spinning. How often do you ever hear of this kind of thing happening?! I have attempted to call the parents today, and they are both avoiding me. So do I send a letter to term? A text? What do I do? Leave a voicemail message?

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                • #23
                  I do have a question that is never taught in ANY cpr class I have taken. How are you suppose to do CPR when you are calling 911 or how are you suppose to call 911 if you are doing CPR? I have never figured out how to do that one.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Country Kids View Post
                    I do have a question that is never taught in ANY cpr class I have taken. How are you suppose to do CPR when you are calling 911 or how are you suppose to call 911 if you are doing CPR? I have never figured out how to do that one.
                    If you are alone, you do 5 sets of CPR. Stop CPR to call 911. I suppose if you have a phone that allows you to turn speaker on; you could technically attempt to do CPR while still on the phone with 911. After getting off the phone, resume CPR if child is still not breathing.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sahm2three View Post
                      It happened very quickly, and what seemed like forever was only seconds. I knew that in a coughing fit opening a window to let the cold air to them would help, so as I was patting his back and checking his mouth for foreign substance I told my assistant to open the window. We were literally within seconds of calling 911. I probably still should have, especially after the way the parents reacted, but I guess once I got him crying and breathing I was just so relieved my head was spinning. How often do you ever hear of this kind of thing happening?! I have attempted to call the parents today, and they are both avoiding me. So do I send a letter to term? A text? What do I do? Leave a voicemail message?
                      If they continue to not respond to your, I would e-mail them a termination letter, followed by a text that says, "Been trying to contact you- please check your e-mail).

                      Then take a big sigh of relief!

                      So sorry

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                      • #26
                        Ohh my gosh I'm shaken reading this...I've never been through anything like that. I've had to do the finger swipe bc of a child choking on a apple piece or grape or strawberry..not sure why it's always the fruit?! But that is horrifying...OP I feel awful for you to have gone through that!! Sending prayers your way and for that blessed baby!!

                        OP my advise is to take a calm breath...then at nap time call again and leave a ms on vm mail if it goes there and just tell them you are concerned and that is why you are calling so often. Tell them that you understand they may be with their child, working etc. but as the provider this child ways on your heart and you are just calling to see how they are fairing as well as see if there is anything you can do for them. I would then leave it at that. If you make it confrontational they won't respond I am thinking they are feeling bad all around for their actions and guilty as well. As a mom I can not believe that instead of stop drop and run out the door to lend aid to her child she wanted to pass it off to her husband to deal with. To be honest, I would of started CPR and then called 911 and bc I am a lone I'd have it on speaker phone listening to the operator but still performing CPR. I'd make one call to the mom telling her as little as possible and that Paramedics are on their way as child stopped breathing due to excessive coughing and where she can meet up with the paramedics to find her child. Then I'd tell her before hanging up that child will NOT be able to attend daycare til their is a written diagnosis from the doctor releasing child back in your care. She may not get all that but I'd leave it up to her to call you back to find out when the child could come back with you giving her the same inform. and also that regardless of days missed they need to be paid before child is excepted back in care. Both in hand at time of care. That is to scary. If the parents neglect to contact you back this week then by Fri. I'd determine that with you trying to make contact and they are not following up with you...I'd send a termination letter. It's sad but you do need to know about this child and not be left hanging.

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                        • #27
                          First off I would term her ON THE SPOT!!

                          If there was ever a 2nd time I'd be calling 911 and not the mother. period. She's a loser.

                          3rd you should be calling 911 regardless whenever an infant stops breathing for any amount of time.

                          I am so sorry you had to go through that but you did an AMAZING job staying calm and getting him breathing again!! You quite possibly saved his life

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                          • #28
                            Sahm-

                            Please document this situation completely (even if not required by your regs), and have your assistant do the same, or sign your documentation. Then, call your regulator and give him or her a heads up about the situation. I worry that when you term, there will be the old blame game and they will call you in. Make sure you are covered.

                            In WI, we must fill out an incident report for any situation that requires a doctor's visit. Even though this wasn't an injury, I would cover your behind and do one!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ariana View Post
                              3rd you should be calling 911 regardless whenever an infant stops breathing for any amount of time.
                              I agree. I have had a couple of scary incidents with my daycare kiddos... I ALWAYS call 911 FIRST, requesting an EMT come to my house and then I phone parents to also come immediately. Even if a child starts breathing again, has fisnished going through a seizure, etc it's always better to be safe than sorry in case there is a second episode while waiting for parents to arrive - also, there is a record with 911 of what occured.

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                              • #30
                                [quote=ariana;190315ut you did an amazing job staying calm and getting him breathing again!! You quite possibly saved his life [/quote]

                                this!!!!!!!! You rock!!!!!!!!

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