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  • #16
    Originally posted by craftymissbeth View Post
    I personally strive to make sure my forms and policies are professional and "official". I realize that others prefer that their policies sound friendlier, but I like to make sure my clients know that I even though my business is out of my home it's still a business and I take that seriously. I do get that without the whole package (me, my environment, my program, etc.) it does come off as cold.


    When it comes to the business aspect, I'm "official and professional". But the business side and personal side are completely separate.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
      Can I ask what things in that policy wouldn't work for you? I am genuinely interested.

      I don't have parents that don't keep their kids home for the reasons listed in OP's form so I am just wondering.

      I really didn't read anything she was excluding for that should be allowed.....vomiting, diarrhea, unexplained rashes, contagious things...

      The exclusion after imms is something I do because of bad experiences so I simply prefer parents to deal with that.

      Other than the policy sounding really official, I can't see any exclusions that are out of the ordinary...
      Increased number of stools, (so the kid pooped a lot. Of course diarrhea is one thing)

      Excessive runny nose, coughing, sneezing, drooling (I wish, but no way that would fly)
      Nose discharge that except clear (I've had kids with yellow, no other symptoms, for months)
      Immunizations (would never, never fly).

      I can't imagine sending someone home with a yellow runny nose and telling them they are excluded for 48 hours.

      If she can do it, great. but I just don't see it flying here.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Rachel View Post
        Increased number of stools, (so the kid pooped a lot. Of course diarrhea is one thing)

        Excessive runny nose, coughing, sneezing, drooling (I wish, but no way that would fly)
        Nose discharge that except clear (I've had kids with yellow, no other symptoms, for months)
        Immunizations (would never, never fly).

        I can't imagine sending someone home with a yellow runny nose and telling them they are excluded for 48 hours.

        If she can do it, great. but I just don't see it flying here.
        The increased number of stools is required by my licensor.

        "Excessive" is up to my determination... I do realize that this one word could cause me issues if I ever needed to enforce it because parents will have their own opinion of what's excessive. Oh well... we'll figure things out.

        Yes, I realize that yellow nasal discharge isn't necessarily anything to be concerned over, but ultimately it's my decision whether or not I feel like that yellow discharge will get all over our playroom and we'll all end up with it.

        I exclude for immunizations because I care for such a young group and many are receiving certain vaccinations for the first time in their lives. Why would I want to be the one caring for them when a potential reaction could occur? Their parents should be.

        You never know if you can swing certain policies in your community unless you actually try them out. Just because all other providers do things a certain way doesn't mean all parents are pleased with it.

        In fact, I'm the only provider in my low income town that not only does not accept state assistance, but also requires a deposit. Still works for me!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
          Can I ask what things in that policy wouldn't work for you? I am genuinely interested.

          I don't have parents that don't keep their kids home for the reasons listed in OP's form so I am just wondering.

          I really didn't read anything she was excluding for that should be allowed.....vomiting, diarrhea, unexplained rashes, contagious things...

          The exclusion after imms is something I do because of bad experiences so I simply prefer parents to deal with that.

          Other than the policy sounding really official, I can't see any exclusions that are out of the ordinary...
          My differences are:
          Fever of 100 oral

          I don't exclude for:
          Colored mucus
          Frequent runny nose
          Sneezing
          Drool

          Kids are out 24 hours symptom free if I send home or if they are kept home. I am going to add returning with same symptoms results in 48 hours out tho.
          Kids can come after Tylenol or Advil has been given unless used for fever.
          Kids can come after imm unless fever or irritability.
          Last edited by Familycare71; 10-07-2013, 05:42 AM. Reason: Added

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          • #20
            Originally posted by craftymissbeth View Post
            I personally strive to make sure my forms and policies are professional and "official". I realize that others prefer that their policies sound friendlier, but I like to make sure my clients know that I even though my business is out of my home it's still a business and I take that seriously. I do get that without the whole package (me, my environment, my program, etc.) it does come off as cold.
            I write my forms in the same manner. I rarely "ask" things, but rather state them and it DOES come off sounding official and business-like but I also prefer it that way.

            Originally posted by Rachel View Post
            Increased number of stools, (so the kid pooped a lot. Of course diarrhea is one thing)

            Excessive runny nose, coughing, sneezing, drooling (I wish, but no way that would fly)
            Nose discharge that except clear (I've had kids with yellow, no other symptoms, for months)
            Immunizations (would never, never fly).

            I can't imagine sending someone home with a yellow runny nose and telling them they are excluded for 48 hours.

            If she can do it, great. but I just don't see it flying here.
            Thank you.... I was simply curious as to what things wouldn't work for you (and others).

            I am in NO way saying anyone is right and/or wrong...I was honestly curious.

            I try hard to be more personal and understanding in certain situations and for me, knowing when to apply a bit more "personal" verses "business" is something I struggle with.....kwim?

            Thank you for replying/your input

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            • #21
              Originally posted by craftymissbeth View Post
              The increased number of stools is required by my licensor.

              "Excessive" is up to my determination... I do realize that this one word could cause me issues if I ever needed to enforce it because parents will have their own opinion of what's excessive. Oh well... we'll figure things out.

              Yes, I realize that yellow nasal discharge isn't necessarily anything to be concerned over, but ultimately it's my decision whether or not I feel like that yellow discharge will get all over our playroom and we'll all end up with it.

              I exclude for immunizations because I care for such a young group and many are receiving certain vaccinations for the first time in their lives. Why would I want to be the one caring for them when a potential reaction could occur? Their parents should be.

              You never know if you can swing certain policies in your community unless you actually try them out. Just because all other providers do things a certain way doesn't mean all parents are pleased with it.

              In fact, I'm the only provider in my low income town that not only does not accept state assistance, but also requires a deposit. Still works for me!
              I know I can't now, because I work for an organization and they have their own sickness policy (which is pretty strict).

              I also like to write things out firmly, but sometimes it can come back to bite you in the bottom. By writing yellow discharge is an exclusion the same as fever, you aren't making it sound like your discretion. So one day a parent will come in with yellow and you will take the kid because it's not a problem,and little Johnny's parents will see Suzy there with yellow discharge and question why you are not following your policy.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
                I write my forms in the same manner. I rarely "ask" things, but rather state them and it DOES come off sounding official and business-like but I also prefer it that way.



                Thank you.... I was simply curious as to what things wouldn't work for you (and others).

                I am in NO way saying anyone is right and/or wrong...I was honestly curious.

                I try hard to be more personal and understanding in certain situations and for me, knowing when to apply a bit more "personal" verses "business" is something I struggle with.....kwim?

                Thank you for replying/your input
                I also am the same way, but the way I read it except for the first 3 about participation and behavior, and the one about "excessive" discharge, they are not written as up for discussion. Is anyone really going to keep a 4 year old who can clean his nose fine home because the discharge is yellow? So then what is going to happen when the next parent walks in, sees Johnny's yellow discharge, and questions why if he can be there with yellow discharge, why can't my angel be there with a 100 fever "from teething." Both are written as exclusion in the same language.

                As far as the shots, I would love to but usually the kids don't have symptoms for 2 days. Sometimes I am told up to 2 weeks later (having trouble remembering). If a child comes in with a fever, even if it was from a shot, of course I send home. But the parents are allowed to bring their kids after they are immunized.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by craftymissbeth View Post
                  The increased number of stools is required by my licensor.

                  "Excessive" is up to my determination... I do realize that this one word could cause me issues if I ever needed to enforce it because parents will have their own opinion of what's excessive. Oh well... we'll figure things out.

                  Yes, I realize that yellow nasal discharge isn't necessarily anything to be concerned over, but ultimately it's my decision whether or not I feel like that yellow discharge will get all over our playroom and we'll all end up with it.

                  I exclude for immunizations because I care for such a young group and many are receiving certain vaccinations for the first time in their lives. Why would I want to be the one caring for them when a potential reaction could occur? Their parents should be.

                  You never know if you can swing certain policies in your community unless you actually try them out. Just because all other providers do things a certain way doesn't mean all parents are pleased with it.

                  In fact, I'm the only provider in my low income town that not only does not accept state assistance, but also requires a deposit. Still works for me!
                  I know I can't now, because I work for an organization and they have their own sickness policy (which is pretty strict).

                  I also like to write things out firmly, but sometimes it can come back to bite you in the bottom. By writing yellow discharge is an exclusion the same as fever, you aren't making it sound like your discretion. So one day a parent will come in with yellow and you will take the kid because it's not a problem,and little Johnny's parents will see Suzy there with yellow discharge and question why you are not following your policy.

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