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I recently started working at a daycare in nj. i was not aware that is was a religiously affiliated facility until after i started, when i was told to do a morning prayer with the children. i am an atheist and was a bit startled by this task. i had no problem monitoring the childrens' praying and was not forced to pray, myself. the following day, i was approached by my boss and asked "if i knew god" and was told that by the end of my time at the daycare, i would be introduced to religion. i was extremely uncomfortable and made her aware that i was not okay with this. i'm worried about how to handle the situation if it gets brought up again. is it legal for her to, for lack of a better word, force religion on an employee? i love the job but would not be willing to stay if there was any legal way that i could be forced into a religious setting.
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Atheist In a Religious Daycare - Religious Harassment
This employer is obviously ignorant of state and federal law.
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of l964 prohibits employers from discriminating against individuals because of their religion in hiring, firing, and other terms and conditions of employment. Title VII covers employers with 15 or more employees, including state and local governments. It also applies to employment agencies and to labor organizations, as well as to the federal government. http://eeoc.gov/types/religion.html
Some examples of religious harassment:
Religious harassment involves unwelcome and religiously offensive conduct in the workplace. Religious harassment can include negative or offensive remarks or jokes about a person's religion or religious garments; religious slurs; or other verbal or physical conduct based on an individual's religion or religious beliefs. http://youth.eeoc.gov/religion2.html
You may wnat to make him aware of these laws. If you are terminated for any reason afterward you may to seek legal advice. -
thanks so much. this makes me feel less awkward about speaking up on this issue.Comment
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If it is a private business, they can make this a part of their policy. they should have been up front. It sounds to me like you are just looking for something to go to court about and not really into your job at all. You should just straight up ask your boss if they want to accept you or not. Personally, I would not want your influence in my day care, but I also advertise that I am a Christian day care. Maybe you just failed to recognise this, or you went into this job knowing, and just looking to try to change someone elses business because you don't like it being christian. I wouldn't want to come against God's anointed if I were you. You better be careful how you handle this, God protects His own.Comment
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"god protects his own"...what a wackjob. surprise.....there is no god!Comment
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I'm sorry you feel this way. Some day you will come to the realization that God is real. I just hope that you realize this before it is too late. God is real, and He does protect Hs own. Maybe not the way your carnal mind has been programed to understand. Don't close your mind until you at least learn about it.
When I don't believe something, I don't close my mind off until I have studied it out. Sometimes I have been wrong. I'm not wrong about God.Comment
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God in Place
I know this is a site about childcare but here is my opinion. Everyone is in different stages of understanding. Until someone can tell me how from nothing (a void with no space, no thought, no substance) that something can make life, harmony, love, thought, emotion and everything working cohesively on a molecular and atomic level. Whatever can do this, is my God and is one heck of a Creator.Comment
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Originally posted by Unregistered
Are you kidding me?! I am a christian and I cannot stand it when I see other people so quick to jump on anyone who does not claim God! First of all when you threaten people, you are not practicing what the word teaches. Second of all, if your whole speel was to try and testify, then you did a bad job at it. God says to obey man's law! That includes her boss. These laws are there to protect everyone- I would not like it if I worked for someone who was Buddhist and my boss tried to convert me. And just for the record, I would not want someone so judgemental watching my children! I hope that someday she would come to God, but that is her choice and her's alone.Last edited by Michael; 12-14-2007, 12:06 PM.Comment
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You know she posted her question on her for help not a sermon. Lady if your all about sermons be a preachers wife and lay off the people who actaully care about the children's help more then if they pray everyday.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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lost for words
OK how bout this.........daycare provider cared for this child for over 2 years now and parents just now let the provider know that it is against their religious belief to get their children their immunizations? For 2 years these parents have exposed not only the children in her care but her family as well? What would ya'll do?Last edited by Michael; 03-03-2009, 02:31 PM.Comment
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immunizations
She's supposed to have immunization records for every child she cares for before they even start. That's the childcare providers responsibility to get from the parents...It's possible that if the parents weren't asked for them in the beginning they assumed they wouldn't be obligated to provide proof of immunizations. And I have to believe that these parents weren't asked for them at the start of care, otherwise this conversation about religion and immunizations between the parents and provider would've taken place two years ago. I believe parents are allowed to sign a waiver saying they choose not to get their child/ren immunized for their own reasons but again, it's something the provider should have gone over a long time ago to avoid these kinds of complications 2 years after everyone has been exposed.
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Pa- leez
Get off your self righteous high horse.... I beleive in God that is in Heaven,but guess what, I also happen to be very uncomfortable with any school, or daycare provider that has any kind of religion,because my religion is quite different, Most of the time ,what is being taught (like how to pray,etc..) is not what i am teaching my own kids. SO , I would be just as uncomfortable as a atheist,even though I believe in God. I too,used to work in a "christian" daycare and was completely unaware of it until I noticed them praying at lunch time. It worked out for me though and there was no conflict. They were understanding and I communicated /offered solutions that wokred for us both.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Sorry...
I am a card carrying atheist, and I'm sorry, but it's just not possible that you had no idea that this was a Christian daycare. More than people who try to force religion down my throat, I don't like fellow atheists who try to stir the pot. This is probably a privately run or not-for-profit daycare, so good luck suing them when they fire you for not being religious. Keeping religion out of public government and schools (except for the tokens that are leftovers from history) should be our focus, not irritating private institutions like this. What you are basically doing is throwing your crap at a small place that is just trying to provide good care for kids. It's up to the parents who take their kids to this place if it's religious or not, not you. All you'll end up doing is driving up prices and driving down quality of care because you're so focused on your own 'issues.' This is about kids. If you can't handle that, then get out of child care. Or go to a for profit center that specializes in non-religious care.Comment
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Religion in daycare
I believe God must have ordered your steps to that day care for you to see the need you have in your life . You need Jesus as your Savior not only does God exist but also has a plan of salvatin for you . I advise you to pocket your pride of being an atheist and approach the director for a better understanding of who Jesus is. Jesus loves youComment
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Hellooo...
I'm sorry, but that is like working at a meat packing plant and then refusing to touch the meat because you are a vegatrian! You don't have to mean the prayer, but the parents who sent their kids there did so in order to give them a Christian education, so either buck up or get out.Comment
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