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  • #16
    One of my daycare children came M-T at 6 a.m. and left at 12 p.m. That was a full time day

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    • #17
      Originally posted by nikkimcc View Post
      Our daycare lady has us update our records every year, sign a new policy etc. Well there are a few updates to the policy and one of them is a preschool "status".

      Let me explain...there is Full time status, where you guarantee her 27 hours/week, and have to pay her for certain holidays and a few personal days a year. If you only get 20 hours in in a week, you still pay her for 27. Then tehre is Part time/drop in status, where you don't guarantee any certain # of hours, but you pay a little more per hour and don't have to pay for any holidays/personal days.

      WELL...now there is a new "preschool status"...It says children in preschool will be charged for the ENTIRE DAY. CAN she legally do that? My son will start preschool in September...it's almost like she put that in there JUST because I mentioned preschool. Mon-THurs he'll be in preschool from 8-11:30 am, and at daycare from 11:30 until 4:30pm. On friday theres no preschool so he'll be at daycare all day.

      Its a total of 14 or so hours a week that I'll have to pay her for when he is in preschool. So should I be mad...or should I be nice about it. I haven't signed the new contract yet, not till I talk to her.

      Shouldn't I have the choice of what status i want him to be? What if I only worked M-T afternoons and all day friday so he was home with ME M-Th mornings...I'd be able to have him Full time then. Does that make sense? Why should it matter WHERE he is mon-thurs morning, as long as he still gets in FT hours?

      My husband has been picking our son up early and staying home with him somedays recently, (but he's still been getting his FT hours in) so maybe she figured that between preschool and my husband being able to be with our son some days, that I'd drop him to PT status and she'd lose out on a bunch of hours? My husband farms so the fact that he is able to pick him up early and such is only temporary, as harvest is just around the corner. She knows this because her husband also farms.

      Maybe I should find a different daycare...

      Different people consider a f/t day a different amount of hours. In our state a p/t day is under 5 hours for daycare assistance (meaning they will only pay for a p/t day if under 5 hours), that doesn't mean a provider has to charge for a p/t day. Many charge for a f/t day for even 3 or 4 hours, because your child is taking up an entire f/t spot and it is rare for a provider to be able to fit a child in the few extra set hours to make up the money they are losing. In almost all cases, a child is taking up an entire spot (or the time they are there is preventing the provider from filling it with another child to get paid her full rate).
      In my state, most providers do not accept school children, just for that very reason (parents of school children have difficulty finding daycare). Even if a provider can find a child to fill some of the time to make up for the money she is losing, it doesn't work well, because she has to have that spot open on inservice days. So, we are supposed to keep a f/t spot open for a p/t rate. Parents are usually charged a f/t rate. I used to charge a p/t rate, but was losing to much money, so I raised my p/t rate (yes daycare is about the kids, but we do have bills to pay). Parents need to realize, we are "juggling" our schedules (Dr. appts for our families, activities, etc...), we have to remember and juggle each families schedules, many times with little notice (early/late drop off/pick up and absences) and then to try and fit in other kids to fill pockets of time doesn't work.
      I hope this explains it better. Merry Christmas

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      • #18
        Hello. I understand from where you are coming from. I worked at a daycare for nearly 20 years. At that center, a parent is charged whether or not the child was there. It's called saving a spot. I noticed that the times your child would be at the center would be from 1130-430. At the center where I used to work at, anything over 5 hours was considered full time. There was once a boy that went to preschool. The mother said she would be picking up her son at 315 everyday, could she be charged a half day rate? Well 315, became 330, and then became 400 and then became 500 and so on to where this child was nearly the last one every night at 630. So basically she was getting care for free for 3 hours. Well I (my director always wanted me to do her dirty work, told her that either she stuck with 315 or she would have to find other care. Being that her child was always the last one would put us over ratio etc..Well she got all upset with me and said she needed to leave him longer than 315 but she still wanted the half day because on other days it would be before 315. Long story short, she got mad because she felt in her eyes we were just "babysitting" (dont you hate that word) and she would find other care.

        So again while I do see your point, if your child will be there regularly over 5 hours then she should charge a full rate JMO

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        • #19
          I charge a daily rate which is the same amount regardless the number of hours the children are in my care. some days they are here from 6:15-4:45 and some days from 1:00-4:45. No matter what, it's the same daily rate. I used to charge a half day rate, but then the parents would arrive a little later or earlier than scheduled to make the half day rate. I do not charge for holidays. Right now I only charge for the days they are in my care, but I only have 1 family (I have my limit with this one family) and they are not here everyday. Sometimes the youngest one will stay home when her mom has off. She works in retail and her schedule varies from week to week. sometimes I don't even have notice on this. She will just drop off the older 2 and say she's keeping the other one at home. I'm seriously thinking of having a flat rate for the week, whether they are here or not. Some weeks it doesn't pay to be open.

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          • #20
            Pre-K teacher

            I would like to know what the regulations are for a school district program that is licensed as childcare but we are pre-k and are taking in preschool age children getting ready to attend kindergarten. We have an assistant and at times a volunteer. Is that legal?

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            • #21
              Provider

              Think of it this way. A home provider is only allowed a certain number of kids. She can not put anyone else in your child’s slot. I currently do not charge a full day to hold a slot but I’ve considered it cause I can’t put anyone else in the slot. I guess you need to evaluate is your provider good with your child? If your child is happy and well cared for? If not, find another provider.



              Originally posted by nikkimcc View Post
              Our daycare lady has us update our records every year, sign a new policy etc. Well there are a few updates to the policy and one of them is a preschool "status".

              Let me explain...there is Full time status, where you guarantee her 27 hours/week, and have to pay her for certain holidays and a few personal days a year. If you only get 20 hours in in a week, you still pay her for 27. Then tehre is Part time/drop in status, where you don't guarantee any certain # of hours, but you pay a little more per hour and don't have to pay for any holidays/personal days.

              WELL...now there is a new "preschool status"...It says children in preschool will be charged for the ENTIRE DAY. CAN she legally do that? My son will start preschool in September...it's almost like she put that in there JUST because I mentioned preschool. Mon-THurs he'll be in preschool from 8-11:30 am, and at daycare from 11:30 until 4:30pm. On friday theres no preschool so he'll be at daycare all day.

              Its a total of 14 or so hours a week that I'll have to pay her for when he is in preschool. So should I be mad...or should I be nice about it. I haven't signed the new contract yet, not till I talk to her.

              Shouldn't I have the choice of what status i want him to be? What if I only worked M-T afternoons and all day friday so he was home with ME M-Th mornings...I'd be able to have him Full time then. Does that make sense? Why should it matter WHERE he is mon-thurs morning, as long as he still gets in FT hours?

              My husband has been picking our son up early and staying home with him somedays recently, (but he's still been getting his FT hours in) so maybe she figured that between preschool and my husband being able to be with our son some days, that I'd drop him to PT status and she'd lose out on a bunch of hours? My husband farms so the fact that he is able to pick him up early and such is only temporary, as harvest is just around the corner. She knows this because her husband also farms.

              Maybe I should find a different daycare...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Think of it this way. A home provider is only allowed a certain number of kids. She can not put anyone else in your child’s slot. I currently do not charge a full day to hold a slot but I’ve considered it cause I can’t put anyone else in the slot. I guess you need to evaluate is your provider good with your child? If your child is happy and well cared for? If not, find another provider.
                This thread is from 2007

                An oldie but a goodie but almost 14 yrs old.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
                  This thread is from 2007

                  An oldie but a goodie but almost 14 yrs old.
                  One of our first threads and is still very relevant.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Michael View Post
                    One of our first threads and is still very relevant.
                    I love the oldies! !
                    I log on in the mornings and sometimes see a really old thread at the top of new posts and smile... hoping it’s a legit poster and not a spammer ::

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