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  • Kentucky Childcare Closing - COVID-19

    Due to the current COVID-19 situation, Governor Beshear of Kentucky has asked that all Kentucky childcare locations be closed by the end of the business day, this Friday, March 20, 2020.

  • #2
    wow, that is quite broad. Thanks for the info.

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    • #3
      I heard a reporter ask the president if day cares should be closed just as schools are being closed. His point was that while kids tend to get less serious symptoms from Covid19, they also can be carriers with no symptoms. Given how easily germs spread among groups of kids and the fact that kids are going back home at the end of the day, potentially spreading the virus to older family members, he asked if any thought was being given to closing day cares, too.

      The president said it was a good question; Dr. Fauci said they'd have to discuss it. I'm guessing it won't be long before they do ask states to close day cares. Our own governor feels we are "essential workers" because medical personnel need child care in order to be able to work. We probably won't be told to shut down unless the federal government recommends it.

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      • #4
        I feel like parents WITH providers should be allowed to make that call. We are private businesses. No one is going to cover our income loss.

        ALL my children have been together for over 10 months.

        Other than my 10 month old I’ve had no new kids for over a year.

        These kids are an immunity wall..!
        They're used to each other.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
          No one is going to cover our income loss.
          This is my biggest concern. Measures have been put in place to help providers protect their income if they take subsidized families but I haven't seen anything to indicate help will be available to those of us who only take private clients. I guess I'm not essential enough to warrant any kind of income protection.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by e.j. View Post
            This is my biggest concern. Measures have been put in place to help providers protect their income if they take subsidized families but I haven't seen anything to indicate help will be available to those of us who only take private clients. I guess I'm not essential enough to warrant any kind of income protection.
            Yet the emails of praise for all we do and recognizing how vital we are pour in from every agency etc

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            • #7
              They are waiving some child care rules in my state

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blackcat31 View Post
                Yet the emails of praise for all we do and recognizing how vital we are pour in from every agency etc
                All I've been seeing are emails updating guidelines and procedures and asking if anyone is interested in increasing their license capacity. I think emails of praise at this point would probably just piss me off.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by e.j. View Post
                  All I've been seeing are emails updating guidelines and procedures and asking if anyone is interested in increasing their license capacity. I think emails of praise at this point would probably just piss me off.
                  Thank you......glad I’m not alone in feeling I have a right to be offended.

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                  • #10
                    Back at you! I thought it was just me!

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                    • #11
                      Our state is thinking of loosening regulations, upping capacities, allowing childcare to be provided in unlicensed locations etc.

                      They will also pay CCA clients based on enrollment instead of attendance. Which will be great for some providers.

                      Funding may be provided to help with sanitation and once hand sanitizer becomes available we will be some of the first on the list to get it.

                      Sounds great except many clients are leaving care. Many providers in a local group are losing clients since school closed. Clients are leaving with no notice and no payment. Loosening regulations will only mean more clients leave for cheaper, unregulated care that will pop up with so many parents at home and hurt providers who are trying to stay afloat. Funding for sanitation and hand sanitizer only helps if the provider has clients.

                      I had a parent give notice today. She decided not to pay to hold the spot since we don’t know how long this will go on for. She’s normally wonderful. She has a child under 18 months and it’s going to be hard to find care once this is all said and done but she’s more worried about the here and now and doesn’t trust she will get paid. I made it very clear that I will not accept a child back in to care if they don’t pay to hold the spot. Additionally, I was only going to charge whatever percentage of tuition they get from unemployment/paid leave.

                      Another client has been hinting about leaving after this week and asking how much it will cost to hold a spot, another is a student who was leaving in March anyway so will probably notify me in the next week, another is a teacher who is off work and another recently had surgery and will be off work.


                      I think the coronavirus relief package assumes that parents will want to keep their care and use money to keep paying for daycare but so many are not thinking about what happens when their provider shutters his/her doors for good because of a mass exodus, they’re worried about keeping the lights on as they find themselves temporarily unemployed.

                      We keep hearing about all of the other essential employees that will need care since schools closed but so far that doesn’t seem to be the case. Chances are the my have another parent at home, friends or family to care for them. Additionally, if regulations are loosened many will just choose the cheapest option. Truthfully, even if they started calling around it would be hard to find care. Who wants schoolagers who have never been enrolled with you, whose parents are at high risk in their homes?

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                      • #12
                        RI has closed it's centers and home based child care.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nanglgrl View Post
                          Our state is thinking of loosening regulations, upping capacities, allowing childcare to be provided in unlicensed locations etc.

                          They will also pay CCA clients based on enrollment instead of attendance. Which will be great for some providers.

                          Funding may be provided to help with sanitation and once hand sanitizer becomes available we will be some of the first on the list to get it.

                          Sounds great except many clients are leaving care. Many providers in a local group are losing clients since school closed. Clients are leaving with no notice and no payment. Loosening regulations will only mean more clients leave for cheaper, unregulated care that will pop up with so many parents at home and hurt providers who are trying to stay afloat. Funding for sanitation and hand sanitizer only helps if the provider has clients.

                          I had a parent give notice today. She decided not to pay to hold the spot since we don’t know how long this will go on for. She’s normally wonderful. She has a child under 18 months and it’s going to be hard to find care once this is all said and done but she’s more worried about the here and now and doesn’t trust she will get paid. I made it very clear that I will not accept a child back in to care if they don’t pay to hold the spot. Additionally, I was only going to charge whatever percentage of tuition they get from unemployment/paid leave.

                          Another client has been hinting about leaving after this week and asking how much it will cost to hold a spot, another is a student who was leaving in March anyway so will probably notify me in the next week, another is a teacher who is off work and another recently had surgery and will be off work.


                          I think the coronavirus relief package assumes that parents will want to keep their care and use money to keep paying for daycare but so many are not thinking about what happens when their provider shutters his/her doors for good because of a mass exodus, they’re worried about keeping the lights on as they find themselves temporarily unemployed.

                          We keep hearing about all of the other essential employees that will need care since schools closed but so far that doesn’t seem to be the case. Chances are the my have another parent at home, friends or family to care for them. Additionally, if regulations are loosened many will just choose the cheapest option. Truthfully, even if they started calling around it would be hard to find care. Who wants schoolagers who have never been enrolled with you, whose parents are at high risk in their homes?
                          This is why we need clear guidance. In Illinois, daycares are given the option to close. Those who close risk losing families, those who stay open risk getting sick or others getting sick.
                          Some providers are staying open and still losing clients. That means WE are still losing. If a provider stays open and then gets covid-19, what makes us thinks the parents will pay in the event Of hospitalization?

                          Not having a clear direction and giving us the option to close puts us in a bad spot, a spot where regardless of what we choose, we lose.

                          At this point, I’m not sure what the solution is because I understand there are SOME families that are essential employees and need daycare. But the ones I’ve seen giving the most pushback and being darn right rude about paying for daycare if it’s closed are the ones that are not essential and still are getting paid.

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                          • #14
                            As hard as it is ,they have to close daycares. Those children can get the virus and spread it without symptoms. The 6 ,10 or more children you care for may have siblings ,elderly grandparents and or neighbors .Mom or Dad stop for groceries on the way home .the child can pick up the virus and spread it to others. Maybe they get food on the way to your house. The child passes it on to her friends .Friends go home and pass it along.If we do not slow this virus down many people will die. It is hard on providers our clients pay weekly mostly and this has never happened before.I think some people will not recover their business for quite awhile .I feel for the situation .

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Second Home View Post
                              RI has closed it's centers and home based child care.
                              We are being asked to consider extending our hours to serve those in the health care field that need child care.

                              We are also asked to consider taking in other children of health care workers IF we have the capacity to do so.

                              They are telling us that if we stay open and any of our staff (or ourselves) have symptoms the state will offer testing in an expedited manner for us.

                              Other than that, they aren't mandating we close (although we still retain the right to do so) but are suggesting we limit our group sizes.

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