Need Desperate Outdoor Setup Help...Pics

[SunflowerMama]

Ok so I have the smallest yard on the planet (definitely #1 priority when we move in a few years). Our yard just looks horrible in the winter and when it rains it's mud for days because most of our yard doesn't get a lot of sun.

So we go a quote this weekend for a wooden deck that would go from the side of our house all the way to the fence (it would cover that lovely concrete slab) and then would stretch to where the fence begins on the left hand side as you're looking at the yard from the house. They are going to rip up that wooden sand box, etc. to lay the deck.

So I'm wondering what to do with the rest of the grass (If we could afford to deck it all we would). I was thinking of maybe some of that outdoor carpet/grass stuff from the back corner of the yard for the picnic tables, sand table and slide structure. I just don't know if I should cover all the grass and just have deck and outdoor carpet or leave some grass somewhere.

What do you guys think?? Sorry it's so messy btw.

[Pammie]

Could you just not have any grass - and cover the ground that's not going to be covered in deck with playground mulch? It wouldn't get muddy and the kids could still play on the "ground" off of the deck.
Just a thought
(I'd cover my entire yard in mulch if I could It takes my yard about 4 weeks in the spring for the ground to dry up enough to let the kids on the lawn!

[melskids]

i was just about to say the same thing as pammie. i much prefer a natural look, then indoor/outdoor carpet. i would mulch it. and i actually like the concrete slab. it gives them a place to scoot around on bikes, or color with chalk.

my yard is just as muddy, but i let them play in it

[SunflowerMama]

My only thought is the cost of the mulch for that much area but I bet it would work well.

[joelietz]

Because of the slope of your yard and the way your fence is at the bottom of the slope a full deck is going to look strange. It would be nice to have a full deck but then your fence is going to be much lower in conjunction with your deck. Can you level of your yard somewhat with fill and then perhaps put in indoor/outdoor carpet? Then you would have a nice surface for your daycare supplies too. Otherwise, I don't really know how to solve this because your yard has a bit of an awkward layout.

[Lilbutterflie]

What kind of grass is growing right now? For southern areas, Saint Augustine is supposed to be the best choice for shady areas. We are dealing with the same issue right now; and are thinking of putting St Augustine sod in our backyard; as was recommended by all of the research I've done.

[DCMom]

If it was me, instead of a deck I would put a larger concrete slab in. My patio runs the length of my house and I love it, they can play when it is wet, ride riding toys, play with chalk, etc....off subject sorry

I agree with the mulch; easy care and when they cart around you can just sweep it off the deck (speak from experience here...) They seem to have waaaay more fun with mulch than sand! .

I have rubber mulch and I love it. It's pretty readily available now at home improvement stores (I got mine at Ace hardware). No bugs, no splinters, doesn't fade or rot. The only downside is it can get hot if in direct sunlight for a large portion of the day.

Btw, I love your back yard even if it is small

[melskids]

i cant wait until this summer. we are putting in a natural playscape. well, to the best of our ability, and how far i can make the $$$ stretch. i am going to set up the outside much like an outdoor classroom as well. i cant wait, we are currently under 3 feet of snow

are you def. wanting a deck, or was that just and idea you were tossing around?

if that was my yard, i would leave the slab. i would mulch at least under the climber area, put in a raised veggie/flower bed, and add a HUGE sand pit

check out....
planetearthplayscapes.com

[SunflowerMama]

We're just thinking about the deck idea but if I can come up with something else I'm totally open.

The problem is where the yard slants down after the concrete they can't really use that area. Maybe I could make that into a big sandpit. I just don't know what to do with the area.

For those that would enlarge the concrete slab how large would you make it?

I really wanted to do a garden too but just don't know where it could go. Maybe I could use the slanted area of the yard next to concrete slab for the garden and level out the ground a bit before putting it in.

[SilverSabre25]

We're just thinking about the deck idea but if I can come up with something else I'm totally open.

The problem is where the yard slants down after the concrete they can't really use that area. Maybe I could make that into a big sandpit. I just don't know what to do with the area.

For those that would enlarge the concrete slab how large would you make it?

I really wanted to do a garden too but just don't know where it could go.

You could definitely turn the sloped area into the sandbox, I think. Make it even with the end of the concrete and it should not only be big enough to play in, it looks like it will be bigger than the current one. More fun for all! Moving the sand "box" over there will also give more room to play, or you could use the existing box as a raised garden bed.

You could also make the slanted area a raised garden bed, or you could look into Square Foot Gardening or Container Gardening.

[melskids]

you could also check out teachertomsblog.blogspot.com

he has a really small outdoor space as well, some of his ideas and the things he did with his space are pretty awesome.

[Cat Herder]

I would build up the sides of the yard nearest the fence with secured landscape timbers then use mulch to level. I would do this using edging around your concrete patio to keep it from being kicked onto the pad.

I would probably put in a covered eating area (mini-gazebo) since we love to eat outdoors and require a cooling spot from the sun every 30 minutes or so in the summer.

I would not put in a deck as that makes your maintenance time/costs skyrocket. Kids, water and pets destroy decks. Not to mention it will shrink your yard to nearly unusable space (remember the step/s from a deck will have to be gated).

Here I have to have 35 sq ft indoor AND outdoor USABLE/CLEAR play space per child. My 3 decks do not count into that space .

If a piece of furniture or a climber/sandbox occupies space, it is deducted from the total (even though, technically, they DO use the space it does not count to my regulator ).

My child ratio is limited to my space requirements as well as Adult to Child supervision ratio.

[safechner]

I understand how you feel about this but I can help you. I don't think deck is a good idea because of too small backyard. You can make more thick grass in your backyard. That is what my husband did. Our backyard is very large and he have been working on it to make it looks great. My daycare kids and my own love it and play a lot in the backyard without shoes on. It is so soft like carpet. . My husband do ants poison every three months to keep it out. My husband can help you out if you want to since we live in the same town. Just let me know.

[DCMomOf3]

Personally I would want to deck out to the right of the door to the corner of the fence only the depth of the slab. Then install a very thick grass for the rest, not turf even though it turf is durable. I LOVE real grass as to my kids. My fav is a blue grass but I don't know how that would grow where you are.

[mac60]

I hate mulch and I got rid of mine. Cost too much to keep it up each season. I went to grass carpet for my play area, and it is now in it's 3rd (or 4th..don't remember) winter, and each Spring comes out looking just like it did in the fall. I wouldn't trade it for anything. We don't have the best grass either. I started out with mulch in my play area, but got tired of them throwing it all over the yard, plus it would break down so much I had to replace it each season. I put $100 in the grass carpet, and haven't touched it in over 3 years. Best investment I made to my backyard. Kids love to play on it, it doesn't get hot, the rain drains right thru it, and it was very affordable.