WWYD? New Licensing Rule Re Screen Time

[Mom2Two]

(6) Except for occasional special events, children's screen time on media such as television, cell phones, tablets, and computers shall:
(a) not be allowed for children 0 to 17 months old;
(b) be limited for children 18 months to 4 years old to 1 hour per day, or 5 hours per week with a maximum screen time of 2 hours per
activity; and
(c) be part of a media plan that addresses the needs of children 5 to 12 years old.

So, when I have a new child who is having a hard time with separation anxiety...I can no longer use some Elmo time to help them adjust. I just have to....not accept them????? Because I really don't want to hear them screaming for hours and hours.

When I feel like crud because I am sleep deprived or half sick...I can no longer put on a show and lie on the sofa, using the show to help keep kids easier to supervise. I have to give them less adequate supervision or CLOSE.

I can no longer put on a Youtube playlist as part of my homeschool child and pre-K children's educational plan...because a toddler or infant month old might see it?

My licensor said that she didn't think this would pass, but it did. She said that no one would be looking over my shoulder. They would just ask me in interview. But what do I say? What are my choices????

I am sooo mad. I don't have an assistant except a little bit in the Winter when DH isn't doing his 2nd job doing lawns. I help children who have a hard time adjusting. I have a GREAT program. What do they think I am? Some kind of Mary Poppins robot????? Do they think that parents can take MORE days off work when I'm not feeling great???? We don't get to watch a movie, because I follow licensing on letting infants and toddlers nap on their own schedule which means they NAP AT DIFFERENT TIMES?????

GRRRRRRR!

[Mom2Two]

Oh, and infant who likes to be held all the time? I hold him while I stand and check my email on my laptop, read on dc.c or facebook, read the news website etc. How stupid is this rule????

[LysesKids]

(6) Except for occasional special events, children's screen time on media such as television, cell phones, tablets, and computers shall:
(a) not be allowed for children 0 to 17 months old;
(b) be limited for children 18 months to 4 years old to 1 hour per day, or 5 hours per week with a maximum screen time of 2 hours per
activity; and
(c) be part of a media plan that addresses the needs of children 5 to 12 years old.

So, when I have a new child who is having a hard time with separation anxiety...I can no longer use some Elmo time to help them adjust. I just have to....not accept them????? Because I really don't want to hear them screaming for hours and hours.

When I feel like crud because I am sleep deprived or half sick...I can no longer put on a show and lie on the sofa, using the show to help keep kids easier to supervise. I have to give them less adequate supervision or CLOSE.

I can no longer put on a Youtube playlist as part of my homeschool child and pre-K children's educational plan...because a toddler or infant month old might see it?

My licensor said that she didn't think this would pass, but it did. She said that no one would be looking over my shoulder. They would just ask me in interview. But what do I say? What are my choices????

I am sooo mad. I don't have an assistant except a little bit in the Winter when DH isn't doing his 2nd job doing lawns. I help children who have a hard time adjusting. I have a GREAT program. What do they think I am? Some kind of Mary Poppins robot????? Do they think that parents can take MORE days off work when I'm not feeling great???? We don't get to watch a movie, because I follow licensing on letting infants and toddlers nap on their own schedule which means they NAP AT DIFFERENT TIMES?????

GRRRRRRR!

I don't even have a TV, much less allow YouTube for my babes. That's been a state reg in just about every state I have ever done childcare. I tell parents, that their little won't get the same here as at home & they will be called if said older has a meltdown. Most mine are under 24 months, but I found it's the older babes/toddlers that have issues because parents don't want to deal and I have one aging out on Friday that thankfully I don't have hear, "please Grandma I want wheels on the bus"

[racemom]

I work in a small center, and we are completely screen free, and new kids just need time to adjust. None of the kids who have been here long term miss it. And yes, I go to work when I am not feeling well. In fact unless I am throwing up I am there and dealing with 6 toddlers all day, because if I am not there, someone has to come in on their day off to cover for me. Yes, there are moments/days I wish I could turn on a tv and let them be entertained, but I find other ways to keep them busy.

[hwichlaz]

Wouldn’t you being ill be a special occasion?

[Mom2Two]

Wouldn’t you being ill be a special occasion?

Good point.

And we actually are screen free as much as possible. In Summer especially, many weeks have zero screen time. My dcks like each other and prefer to be social with each other. And my own family is low-tech. We have no gaming system, no smart phones, not even a flat screen tv.

But I don't like how little discretion this new rule gives the providers. And by this rule...any provider who even was on their iphone internet while holding a baby would be breaking the rule.

[Josiegirl]

So do what your licensor suggested. No one is looking over your shoulder.
Unfortunately, we are being encouraged to fudge, which amounts to downright lying, when asked about certain things. So why the heck create all these rules if providers are being encouraged to fudge them??:confused:

[DaveA]

So do what your licensor suggested. No one is looking over your shoulder.
Unfortunately, we are being encouraged to fudge, which amounts to downright lying, when asked about certain things. So why the heck create all these rules if providers are being encouraged to fudge them??:confused:

Simple- the people making the rules haven't worked with children or feel the need to do "something" regardless of if it makes sense or not.

In my case I would ask what counts as screen time. We have a great children's music channel on our cable. I turn it on after lunch for naptime and leave it on the rest of the day. It's music and a couple dozen changing pictures (birds, toys, flowers, etc.) It gives me access to a lot of different music for the kids. Does that count as screen time? What about allowing school agers to use my computer to research for homework? Oye

[Pestle]

I sometimes use my Chromebook to pull up folk songs (I'm home schooling my preschooler, and Language & Literacy for the first couple of years is mostly nursery rhymes, fairy tales, folk tales and folk songs). I have to turn the Chromebook to the wall or the kids will all end up clustered around it. . . even if it's just a lyric video.

[Annalee]

Simple- the people making the rules haven't worked with children or feel the need to do "something" regardless of if it makes sense or not.

In my case I would ask what counts as screen time. We have a great children's music channel on our cable. I turn it on after lunch for naptime and leave it on the rest of the day. It's music and a couple dozen changing pictures (birds, toys, flowers, etc.) It gives me access to a lot of different music for the kids. Does that count as screen time? What about allowing school agers to use my computer to research for homework? Oye

Computer, ipad, etc. counts as screen time here and is not allowed for infants at all. What has happened here is the QRIS FCCERS-R book guidelines are being placed in the licensing rules. So this TV rule and many other rules are changing in many states. The TV one isn't a biggie to me but the magnitude of expectations/guidelines here is a biggie. I expect many states to follow. Just like the original poster said, licensing said the rules would "never happen"...well, I have been told that so much here, I don't believe that anymore. IT IS HAPPENING! Like I said the TV rule is no biggie to me but be expected for crazier things to follow!

[TheMisplacedMidwestMom]

I sometimes use my Chromebook to pull up folk songs (I'm home schooling my preschooler, and Language & Literacy for the first couple of years is mostly nursery rhymes, fairy tales, folk tales and folk songs). I have to turn the Chromebook to the wall or the kids will all end up clustered around it. . . even if it's just a lyric video.

I play music on my computer a lot, mostly YouTube then I minimize the window so there's no visual. I have one kid who will still stare at the computer! Even as everyone else is playing or dancing. ::

[jenboo]

Screen free here so it wouldn't bother me.

[nannyde]

Wait till they tell you YOU can't be on any screen while the kids are in your care. No phone unless it's business related or emergency either.

Check out New York State's regs.

I still can't believe it.

[Mom2Two]

So do what your licensor suggested. No one is looking over your shoulder.
Unfortunately, we are being encouraged to fudge, which amounts to downright lying, when asked about certain things. So why the heck create all these rules if providers are being encouraged to fudge them??:confused:

It's true...there are a couple of rules that are confusing and I have to fudge on, meaning that the rule doesn't spell out every situation, and I have to choose what is truly in the best interests of the children, even if it isn't the "letter of the law." But I had the idea that those laws were just old. I'm side-swiped that this one is brand new.

In the end i decided that I will tell my licensor that if I average it over a year, I have less than 5 hours/week screen time. Pretty sure. But some weeks go way beyond that and others are naught.

Simple- the people making the rules haven't worked with children or feel the need to do "something" regardless of if it makes sense or not. Yes, it's another one from the Ivory Tower crew.

In my case I would ask what counts as screen time. We have a great children's music channel on our cable. I turn it on after lunch for naptime and leave it on the rest of the day. It's music and a couple dozen changing pictures (birds, toys, flowers, etc.) It gives me access to a lot of different music for the kids. Does that count as screen time? What about allowing school agers to use my computer to research for homework? Oye

I sometimes use my Chromebook to pull up folk songs (I'm home schooling my preschooler, and Language & Literacy for the first couple of years is mostly nursery rhymes, fairy tales, folk tales and folk songs). I have to turn the Chromebook to the wall or the kids will all end up clustered around it. . . even if it's just a lyric video.

ITA--it's getting so hard to draw a bright line anymore. Music on Youtube...DD's curriculum is on the computer...how can I even stop kids from watching over her shoulder? It's Common Core stuff--how can they tell us one thing then contradict it? I used IXL for my K readiness and also RAZ Kids reading library. Fountas and Pinnel reading levels. And Spellingcity.com--all paid for and prescribed by DD's eSchool.

Computer, ipad, etc. counts as screen time here and is not allowed for infants at all. What has happened here is the QRIS FCCERS-R book guidelines are being placed in the licensing rules. So this TV rule and many other rules are changing in many states. The TV one isn't a biggie to me but the magnitude of expectations/guidelines here is a biggie. I expect many states to follow. Just like the original poster said, licensing said the rules would "never happen"...well, I have been told that so much here, I don't believe that anymore. IT IS HAPPENING! Like I said the TV rule is no biggie to me but be expected for crazier things to follow!

Same.

I play music on my computer a lot, mostly YouTube then I minimize the window so there's no visual. I have one kid who will still stare at the computer! Even as everyone else is playing or dancing. ::

Wait till they tell you YOU can't be on any screen while the kids are in your care. No phone unless it's business related or emergency either.

Check out New York State's regs.

I still can't believe it.

I'll have to look that one up.

Do they not understand that daycare isn't perfect? I'm a believer in all that I am taught n my classes. I try to follow the rules. But the reality is that my daycare is on the main level of my home. This gives my clients a lower cost and also it gives my kids a more homey environment. I use my personal judgement to decide what is best for the group.

Education is becoming more and more techy. How on earth can I separate it and not allow an infant to lay eyes on it? Not. happening.

I know that some providers abuse screen time, but wow, this new rule is way too rigid.

[daycarediva]

So do what your licensor suggested. No one is looking over your shoulder.
Unfortunately, we are being encouraged to fudge, which amounts to downright lying, when asked about certain things. So why the heck create all these rules if providers are being encouraged to fudge them??:confused:

Yup. Insane.

I find they're open to interpretation. "Special occasion" pj and movie day the children earned? 30 minute you tube videos for christmas sing a longs?

Wait till they tell you YOU can't be on any screen while the kids are in your care. No phone unless it's business related or emergency either.

Check out New York State's regs.

I still can't believe it.

NY provider- necessary for child care. I flat out TOLD my registrar I get on here, pinterest, menu sites, etc. and she said as long as it's not a supervision issue (sight AND sound) I'm fine.