No, Explosive Poop Is Not Welcome At Daycare

[Heidi]

One of my dck's has always been a big pooper, to be honest. From the time she started at weeks of age until she really transitioned to solids, there were a lot of "blowouts". She still has some pretty gross diapers (at 16 months). It's just the way her body works, and so I deal with it. It's never been so bad, since she's been mobile, that I was having to wash down anything, although there have been some clothing changes. So, I wouldn't send her home for it, but a child where it's out of the norm, I sure would. Too many factors to be black and white about it, for me.

I think in OP's case, I would, just because the parents are being such dorks. Fruit juice in great quantities equals diarrhea, so hey, let's give him tons of fruit juice.

Why is everyone suddenly incapable of saying NO! to their children? :confused: I'm seriously worried!

[taylorw1210]

One of my dck's has always been a big pooper, to be honest. From the time she started at weeks of age until she really transitioned to solids, there were a lot of "blowouts". She still has some pretty gross diapers (at 16 months). It's just the way her body works, and so I deal with it. It's never been so bad, since she's been mobile, that I was having to wash down anything, although there have been some clothing changes. So, I wouldn't send her home for it, but a child where it's out of the norm, I sure would. Too many factors to be black and white about it, for me.

I think in OP's case, I would, just because the parents are being such dorks. Fruit juice in great quantities equals diarrhea, so hey, let's give him tons of fruit juice.

Why is everyone suddenly incapable of saying NO! to their children? :confused: I'm seriously worried!

I'm glad I'm not the only one with a big pooper! There were definitely days I wish I could have terminated his care without feeling bad for saying, "Hey, your kid just poops too much..." :: But instead the parents and I complained about it together, because the same thing happens at home, when they saw yet another baggie full of poopie clothes.

[Blackcat31]

I have a DCB who is 9 months who has ALWAYS pooped out of his diaper. It's gotten better now that he eats solids (he was strictly BF prior to solids and their poo is definitely on the more liquid side), however, for quite some time it was a 3-4 times a week occurrence. Majority of the time it was just inside his clothes in which case I had to clean him up in the tub after removing clothes and containing them properly, however on a few occasions it's leaked into his sleeping area/my carpet/etc. Definitely not a joy to clean up in the least, and I was NOT happy about it! I eventually sent a letter home requesting the parents to provide a larger diaper because I thought that may be the issue. However, it was not as it continued until he was on solids regularly.

To those of you who do not handle explosive diapers, what would you do if you had a child like this?

Sounds to me like he may have an allergy, intolerance or sensitivity to something in his diet.

By that age, he should be having more regular and more solid poops.

I had one like that once too..... I had DCM see her pediatrician and it turned out the child had a dairy sensitivity. They told her to switch to soy, rice or almond milk and the problem solved itself within a month-month and half.

My little DCK's poo was VERY acidy and very smelly so that was also a sign that something wasn't right.

[Heidi]

Sounds to me like he may have an allergy, intolerance or sensitivity to something in his diet.

By that age, he should be having more regular and more solid poops.

I had one like that once too..... I had DCM see her pediatrician and it turned out the child had a dairy sensitivity. They told her to switch to soy, rice or almond milk and the problem solved itself within a month-month and half.

My little DCK's poo was VERY acidy and very smelly so that was also a sign that something wasn't right.

Yeah, with my little girl, it wasn't wierdly smelly or acidic. Just a lot...

Since she's been on solids, aka "real people food", she still makes full use of her diaper space. But, she eats as much as a grown man, and her dad is a self-taught gourmet chef. So, she eats some unusual foods...hence, unusual diapers. ::

[caregiver]

I hear you all and if it is extremely explosive, like maybe it is connected to some sort of bug, I will call the parents to come pick up. But since I run a very small daycare, I have the time to deal with it if it isn't really bad and I do feel it is my job as a provider to deal with it and clean the child up. I have had to put kids in the tub to clean them up,not that I enjoy having to do that, but I will do that if needed. I guess I run my daycare on a more personal aspect then run it like a business type. My husband say's I get too involved with the kids personally and should run it more like business, but I want to be involved more as a provider and make a difference in their little lives. I guess I feel more like a Grandma to the kids then a provider and that is the way I like it and my DCP like it like that too.
I just feel cleaning up the poppy diaper is just part of my job and I do it.
Right or wrong,the child is in my care for 8-9 hours a day and it is my responsibility to take care of that child while the parents are at work,so whatever that child needs I will make sure that the child is well cared for. Yes it is messy to have to clean them up when they have a bad poop, but I can't let them sit in it to wait until a parent would come get them,that to me is just not right.
Sorry to disagree with most of you. It's just the way I do things.

[Heidi]

I hear you all and if it is extremely explosive, like maybe it is connected to some sort of bug, I will call the parents to come pick up. But since I run a very small daycare, I have the time to deal with it if it isn't really bad and I do feel it is my job as a provider to deal with it and clean the child up. I have had to put kids in the tub to clean them up,not that I enjoy having to do that, but I will do that if needed. I guess I run my daycare on a more personal aspect then run it like a business type. My husband say's I get too involved with the kids personally and should run it more like business, but I want to be involved more as a provider and make a difference in their little lives. I guess I feel more like a Grandma to the kids then a provider and that is the way I like it and my DCP like it like that too.
I just feel cleaning up the poppy diaper is just part of my job and I do it.
Right or wrong,the child is in my care for 8-9 hours a day and it is my responsibility to take care of that child while the parents are at work,so whatever that child needs I will make sure that the child is well cared for. Yes it is messy to have to clean them up when they have a bad poop, but I can't let them sit in it to wait until a parent would come get them,that to me is just not right.
Sorry to disagree with most of you. It's just the way I do things.

I've been on both ends (ha ha) of this. I've had a bigger group, more "preschool" style, with a separate daycare space (although I had a mixed age group), and now I have a small group (usually 3 or 4) with a mixed space. I definately do things different now than then. It is more "personalized" with the smaller group; in general, I am not as strict about my illness policy as before.

[taylorw1210]

Sounds to me like he may have an allergy, intolerance or sensitivity to something in his diet.

By that age, he should be having more regular and more solid poops.

I had one like that once too..... I had DCM see her pediatrician and it turned out the child had a dairy sensitivity. They told her to switch to soy, rice or almond milk and the problem solved itself within a month-month and half.

My little DCK's poo was VERY acidy and very smelly so that was also a sign that something wasn't right.

He does have more regular and solid poops now, but sometimes they do still forcefully leave his diaper. I addressed an intolerance/allergy issue with his parents because he also spit up - a lot - all the time (but I think he overate more than anything) - and they addressed it with his pediatrician and apparently they deemed the kid free of any issues.

[TaylorTots]

Explosive to me means anything not "containable" in the diaper.

That's my definition as well.

I have a DCB who is 9 months who has ALWAYS pooped out of his diaper. It's gotten better now that he eats solids (he was strictly BF prior to solids and their poo is definitely on the more liquid side), however, for quite some time it was a 3-4 times a week occurrence. Majority of the time it was just inside his clothes in which case I had to clean him up in the tub after removing clothes and containing them properly, however on a few occasions it's leaked into his sleeping area/my carpet/etc. Definitely not a joy to clean up in the least, and I was NOT happy about it! I eventually sent a letter home requesting the parents to provide a larger diaper because I thought that may be the issue. However, it was not as it continued until he was on solids regularly.

To those of you who do not handle explosive diapers, what would you do if you had a child like this?

I would honestly tell the parents "His diaper is not containing his poop, its making childcare areas unsanitary - and a TON of extra cleaning work for me. Other children aren't getting the attention they need as well as I spend more time cleaning up the explosive diapers. You must stop the explosive pooping or I will have to terminate care. It puts the other children at risk. I suggest you either find a diaper that will contain it or possibly take him to his pediatrician as this type of poop is NOT normal for a 9 month old.

Professionally shampooing carpet to attempt to get it out of the pad after explosive poop gets expensive - not to even mention loss of income if you have to close to have it done.

One of my dck's has always been a big pooper, to be honest. From the time she started at weeks of age until she really transitioned to solids, there were a lot of "blowouts". She still has some pretty gross diapers (at 16 months). It's just the way her body works, and so I deal with it. It's never been so bad, since she's been mobile, that I was having to wash down anything, although there have been some clothing changes. So, I wouldn't send her home for it, but a child where it's out of the norm, I sure would. Too many factors to be black and white about it, for me.

I think in OP's case, I would, just because the parents are being such dorks. Fruit juice in great quantities equals diarrhea, so hey, let's give him tons of fruit juice.

Why is everyone suddenly incapable of saying NO! to their children? :confused: I'm seriously worried!

I agree! Crazy. Though honestly, I am super black and white. One explosive poop and you are gone - I don't care what caused it. Again, it puts my other DCKs at risk between sanitation and safety (supervising while cleaning up poop/child). I would rather have a parent upset that I sent home explosive poop child than have someone bite someone because I couldn't supervise properly, etc.

I hear you all and if it is extremely explosive, like maybe it is connected to some sort of bug, I will call the parents to come pick up. But since I run a very small daycare, I have the time to deal with it if it isn't really bad and I do feel it is my job as a provider to deal with it and clean the child up. I have had to put kids in the tub to clean them up,not that I enjoy having to do that, but I will do that if needed. I guess I run my daycare on a more personal aspect then run it like a business type. My husband say's I get too involved with the kids personally and should run it more like business, but I want to be involved more as a provider and make a difference in their little lives. I guess I feel more like a Grandma to the kids then a provider and that is the way I like it and my DCP like it like that too.
I just feel cleaning up the poppy diaper is just part of my job and I do it.
Right or wrong,the child is in my care for 8-9 hours a day and it is my responsibility to take care of that child while the parents are at work,so whatever that child needs I will make sure that the child is well cared for. Yes it is messy to have to clean them up when they have a bad poop, but I can't let them sit in it to wait until a parent would come get them,that to me is just not right.
Sorry to disagree with most of you. It's just the way I do things.

I don't understand how can you put a child in the tub and clean them and supervise your other 2 children? With only 3 enrolled I assume you don't have an assistant to watch the other children, right?

Also, my DCKs don't sit in said explosion. I take care of it, often while on speakerphone with DCP telling them what I am cleaning up as well as telling them they need to leave work immediately or make pick up arrangements immediately because as I am taking this time to clean their DCK, the other children are not being properly supervised. No parent has EVER argued... usually they come in sheepishly it happened at home too and they didn't mention it.

[Cradle2crayons]

I hear you all and if it is extremely explosive, like maybe it is connected to some sort of bug, I will call the parents to come pick up. But since I run a very small daycare, I have the time to deal with it if it isn't really bad and I do feel it is my job as a provider to deal with it and clean the child up. I have had to put kids in the tub to clean them up,not that I enjoy having to do that, but I will do that if needed. I guess I run my daycare on a more personal aspect then run it like a business type. My husband say's I get too involved with the kids personally and should run it more like business, but I want to be involved more as a provider and make a difference in their little lives. I guess I feel more like a Grandma to the kids then a provider and that is the way I like it and my DCP like it like that too.
I just feel cleaning up the poppy diaper is just part of my job and I do it.
Right or wrong,the child is in my care for 8-9 hours a day and it is my responsibility to take care of that child while the parents are at work,so whatever that child needs I will make sure that the child is well cared for. Yes it is messy to have to clean them up when they have a bad poop, but I can't let them sit in it to wait until a parent would come get them,that to me is just not right.
Sorry to disagree with most of you. It's just the way I do things.

I haven't seen anyone say they make the child sit in poop until the parent gets there???????:confused::confused:

I've heard them say that they send them home because he explosive diaper or diarrhea was an excludable symptom possibly involved with illness.

It has nothing to do with running a daycare on a more Business or a more personal level... At least that's my take on it.

For me, it's about infection control. And illness control. One child with contagious diarrhea is one thing... But them giving it to the others and then I have five children with poop going everywhere... It just doesn't work.

Not to mention how a person can supervise other children while bathing a child three times a week for explosive diarrhea caused either by parental mis-feeding, laxative use, etc etc.

Personally it's not okay for a parent to load their child up on a laxative and drop hem off here because they don't want to deal with the effects...than a child whose diaper is a little too small and they have an Oopsie every now and again.

[caregiver]

My house is set up so that I have long hall by my bathroom and I will have the other 2 kids, if I have 3 at the time, sometimes it is mostly just 2 kids I care for, but anyway I have them sit in the hall by the bathroom, tell them to get a book or toy and sit there while I clean so and so up and they do sit there for me and I talk to them also while cleaning the other child up so I know they know I am paying attention to what they are doing. I maybe will ask them to go get a towel for me or get a clean diaper from the diaper stash and bring it to me which helps me and then they feel as though they have helped too. It does work for me and I am still able to know what the other kids are doing. I am a very responsible provider and would never put any of the kids in danger by not being able to see what they are up to.

[Blackcat31]

My house is set up so that I have long hall by my bathroom and I will have the other 2 kids, if I have 3 at the time, sometimes it is mostly just 2 kids I care for, but anyway I have them sit in the hall by the bathroom, tell them to get a book or toy and sit there while I clean so and so up and they do sit there for me and I talk to them also while cleaning the other child up so I know they know I am paying attention to what they are doing. I maybe will ask them to go get a towel for me or get a clean diaper from the diaper stash and bring it to me which helps me and then they feel as though they have helped too. It does work for me and I am still able to know what the other kids are doing. I am a very responsible provider and would never put any of the kids in danger by not being able to see what they are up to.

In care giver's defense..... our state does NOT require sight supervision at all times. We are only required to be within sight OR sound of the children. (ONLY exception is infants under 12 months)

If she is bathing one child, the other two might be coloring at the table or playing blocks in the play room. She doesn't need to actually see them to be supervising them according to our licensing rules.

I have no idea how old her other DCK's are but I just wanted to make sure the state regulations were mentioned so people weren't thinking she is doing something wrong when she isn't.

[TaylorTots]

I agree, this is about infection and illness control - safety and sanitation.

This is not about whether you have many or few DCKs in your care or whether you think of your childcare as a business or personal venture.

As the title says... No, Explosive Poop Is Not Welcome At Daycare.

I should make that into a sign to hang on the daycare bathroom/diaper changing area ::

[caregiver]

In care giver's defense..... our state does NOT require sight supervision at all times. We are only required to be within sight OR sound of the children. (ONLY exception is infants under 12 months)

If she is bathing one child, the other two might be coloring at the table or playing blocks in the play room. She doesn't need to actually see them to be supervising them according to our licensing rules.

I have no idea how old her other DCK's are but I just wanted to make sure the state regulations were mentioned so people weren't thinking she is doing something wrong when she isn't.

Thank you Black Cat. My other children are 3 yrs and 4 and a half, so they are old enough to sit and look at books while I am bathing the other child if it happens, who is 2 now herself. It doesn't happen that much that I have to clean a poopy mess up, but if it happens this is what I do and the kids are right there ,close enough for me to know what they are doing. Yes, if it is really bad, I do call the parents to come pick up, I don't want to be passing something around so the other ones get sick,but if it is just a messy diaper,not a yellowish color and I don't believe that it is anything to worry about, I just clean them up and keep an eye on them the rest of the day to make sure nothing more is going on. I guess my point was that some of these things are just part of the job we have to do doing daycare and I am finding that I guess I put up with a lot more then a lot of providers are willing to do. I take my job seriously and want to make sure that the kids in my care get the best care while in my care and that parents feel good about the care given their child. Little things used to bother me so much when I first started doing daycare some 30 yrs ago,but now I just seem to go with the flow. Early drop offs and late pick ups used to really get me upset, but now if they are only a few minutes early or late, no big deal. If they are really early or late,then I say something, but a few minutes is nothing to get me stressed out. Things happen sometimes that is not in our control, so why get stressed over what we can not do anything about. Don't mean to get physiological here. Life is too short as it is to get all stressed about things.

[LadyPearl]

I'm sorry but the thought of putting a poopy child in my family's tub grosses me out! I had to send dcg4 home for diarrhea and dcd had the audacity to ask me if I was sure that she had it. Well, she had pooped all over my bathroom and didn't tell me. I told him it was still all over and I wasn't able to clean it when I found it because I was leaving to pick up my kids at school. I should have sent them a picture!! The next week, I sent her brother home for diarrhea (I think I was lied to). They said dcb2 pooped during the night and had a really red butt. Shortly after he proceeded to scream and literally poop his brains out. Dcm could hear him screaming in the background when I was on the phone with her.

[caregiver]

I hear ya,but it is no more gross then when I had to do it with my own kids.
I also have had to do it a few times when my Grandson was visiting,when he was younger.
It is gross, but I just clean the tub after really good, Sanitize it really well.
Ya do what ya gotta do.