What is this exactly? If someone knows, and how it could affect us FHDCP? Really ignorant about this :confused:
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Basically means everyone would pay additional taxes to the government and then the government will divvy out "free" childcare to the masses. You know how kindergarten is free? Obama thinks every family should have access to free preschool in the same way.
As far as how it would effect private providers, to participate we'd probably be paid less (exactly like county assistance rates are determined now - most falling way below what any of us actually charge). Choose not to participate and you'll be stuck competing against those who do offer it, and think about it....how many people will choose quality over a free service? While it's fine and dandy to hope or assume most parents would care fact of the matter is the economy is in the crapper and only tanking faster and harder every single day. With the way things are going it's just a matter of time before parents won't have the choice but to accept such free programs just so they can get food on their tables.
I seriously think Obama is trying to run us all straight into the ground just so he can force us all to become more dependent on big government via programs like that.
I jerked my head up from my sewing so fast last night when I heard him spout the words "universal preschool" my neck still hurts today.....
It's an avenue of socialism and the theory is disgusting imho. It definitely won't benefit the children on a mass level.
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Originally posted by Willow View PostBasically means everyone would pay additional taxes to the government and then the government will divvy out "free" childcare to the masses. You know how kindergarten is free? Obama thinks every family should have access to free preschool in the same way.
As far as how it would effect private providers, to participate we'd probably be paid less (exactly like county assistance rates are determined now - most falling way below what any of us actually charge). Choose not to participate and you'll be stuck competing against those who do offer it, and think about it....how many people will choose quality over a free service? While it's fine and dandy to hope or assume most parents would care fact of the matter is the economy is in the crapper and only tanking faster and harder every single day. With the way things are going it's just a matter of time before parents won't have the choice but to accept such free programs just so they can get food on their tables.
I seriously think Obama is trying to run us all straight into the ground just so he can force us all to become more dependent on big government via programs like that.
I jerked my head up from my sewing so fast last night when I heard him spout the words "universal preschool" my neck still hurts today.....
It's an avenue of socialism and the theory is disgusting imho. It definitely won't benefit the children on a mass level.
The biggest group of parents looking for child care are single parents on some sort of assistance program. Most the families in my community that aren't on some sort of assistance have figured out how to manage child care needs amongst themselves and within the family.
From what I have read about the Parent Aware program, the government is going to give tax breaks/credits to parents who choose programs that participate so we know which programs are going to fill the fastest.
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Oklahoma was mentioned in the state of the union address for it's "universal preschool". What we have is a statewide 4 year old program, that is part of the elementary schools. This coming school year they have extended it from half-day to full-day.
I would hope that is what the president is meaning when he speaks of universal preschool. And since he mentioned my state's program - I think he is.
I absolutely dislike the all day, state provided, preschool. And I hate the idea of it funneling into the younger children and private childcare. And this is coming from a HUGE Obama supporter.
Some schools in our state have 3 year old programs and I loathe the idea. However, parents (even my middle/ upper-middle class clientele) gobble the idea up. They love it. I have only had one mom who really doesn't want to take advantage of it (the 4 year old program).
I just think its a lot of school and structured learning for ones that little. Also, the shortened/elimination of nap time that has been broughten about by Pre-k & full day Kindergarten is a big concern of mine, but that's a whole other issue
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Originally posted by Willow View PostBasically means everyone would pay additional taxes to the government and then the government will divvy out "free" childcare to the masses. You know how kindergarten is free? Obama thinks every family should have access to free preschool in the same way.
As far as how it would effect private providers, to participate we'd probably be paid less (exactly like county assistance rates are determined now - most falling way below what any of us actually charge). Choose not to participate and you'll be stuck competing against those who do offer it, and think about it....how many people will choose quality over a free service? While it's fine and dandy to hope or assume most parents would care fact of the matter is the economy is in the crapper and only tanking faster and harder every single day. With the way things are going it's just a matter of time before parents won't have the choice but to accept such free programs just so they can get food on their tables.
I seriously think Obama is trying to run us all straight into the ground just so he can force us all to become more dependent on big government via programs like that.
I jerked my head up from my sewing so fast last night when I heard him spout the words "universal preschool" my neck still hurts today.....
It's an avenue of socialism and the theory is disgusting imho. It definitely won't benefit the children on a mass level.
On a side note, we took our car in to get a smog check yesterday and the mechanics are going to be rated in a "star" program soon too.
It's scary to me where things are headed...
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Originally posted by Willow View PostBasically means everyone would pay additional taxes to the government and then the government will divvy out "free" childcare to the masses. You know how kindergarten is free? Obama thinks every family should have access to free preschool in the same way.
As far as how it would effect private providers, to participate we'd probably be paid less (exactly like county assistance rates are determined now - most falling way below what any of us actually charge). Choose not to participate and you'll be stuck competing against those who do offer it, and think about it....how many people will choose quality over a free service? While it's fine and dandy to hope or assume most parents would care fact of the matter is the economy is in the crapper and only tanking faster and harder every single day. With the way things are going it's just a matter of time before parents won't have the choice but to accept such free programs just so they can get food on their tables.
I seriously think Obama is trying to run us all straight into the ground just so he can force us all to become more dependent on big government via programs like that.
I jerked my head up from my sewing so fast last night when I heard him spout the words "universal preschool" my neck still hurts today.....
It's an avenue of socialism and the theory is disgusting imho. It definitely won't benefit the children on a mass level.
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I'm really sorry to all of those Obama supporters out there but I think Obama's an idiot ... Maybe I'm just tired of hearing all of his promises and then him doing the complete opposite later but I think he's doing a horrible job as president.
I mean, did you hear what he said?!?! Does he hear what he is saying?!?! He proposed almost 30 new government programs and then said that it wouldn't increase the deficit. How does that even remotely make sense? Especially when the government is already going downhill and the deficit grows.
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Originally posted by MarinaVanessa View PostI'm really sorry to all of those Obama supporters out there but I think Obama's an idiot ... Maybe I'm just tired of hearing all of his promises and then him doing the complete opposite later but I think he's doing a horrible job as president.
I mean, did you hear what he said?!?! Does he hear what he is saying?!?! He proposed almost 30 new government programs and then said that it wouldn't increase the deficit. How does that even remotely make sense? Especially when the government is already going downhill and the deficit grows.
I was so disgusted that he didn't hardly touch on unemployment or the deficit at all! Just spouted on and on about all these programs that are magically not going to cost us a dime!
I felt like I was in the twilight zone whenever people would stand up and clap......
On another note, the 102 year old woman who voted for him gets the longest standing ovation in the history of State of the Union addresses and the police officer who gets shot a dozen times in the line of duty gets crickets was BULL.
If that wasn't intentional brain washing bologna I don't know what is.......
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Originally posted by MarinaVanessa View PostI'm really sorry to all of those Obama supporters out there but I think Obama's an idiot ... Maybe I'm just tired of hearing all of his promises and then him doing the complete opposite later but I think he's doing a horrible job as president.
I mean, did you hear what he said?!?! Does he hear what he is saying?!?! He proposed almost 30 new government programs and then said that it wouldn't increase the deficit. How does that even remotely make sense? Especially when the government is already going downhill and the deficit grows.
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Originally posted by Willow View Post
I was so disgusted that he didn't hardly touch on unemployment or the deficit at all! Just spouted on and on about all these programs that are magically not going to cost us a dime!
I felt like I was in the twilight zone whenever people would stand up and clap......
On another note, the 102 year old woman who voted for him gets the longest standing ovation in the history of State of the Union addresses and the police officer who gets shot a dozen times in the line of duty gets crickets was BULL.
If that wasn't intentional brain washing bologna I don't know what is.......
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Originally posted by MarinaVanessa View PostI'm really sorry to all of those Obama supporters out there but I think Obama's an idiot ... Maybe I'm just tired of hearing all of his promises and then him doing the complete opposite later but I think he's doing a horrible job as president.
I mean, did you hear what he said?!?! Does he hear what he is saying?!?! He proposed almost 30 new government programs and then said that it wouldn't increase the deficit. How does that even remotely make sense? Especially when the government is already going downhill and the deficit grows.
As a pp said, the state is pushing degrees (I have an associate in ECE and am pursuing a bachelors). Now I know why! BS!
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Originally posted by Binkybobo View PostIt just doesn't make sense to me. i cannot understand how it would benefit him for us to al be un state funded programs yet he keeps pushing them. Sure it would be great if ALL preschoolers were taught by degreed teachers. But is it important? No. I never stepped one foot in anyone's preschool as a child. Sesame street and Barney were my educators before prek and kinder. I was a straight A student. The more he proposes the more confused I get. I just don't see the point. I'm so confused that I can't even make an educated argument. I'm just all discombobulated with my mouth open like WTH? He meddles in things that are barely important instead of focusing on the real problems. Einstein didn't have universal preschool.. What in the world is going on? My 4 year od stays at home with mommy at no expense to any tax payer. She is more than ready for kindergarten.
I don't agree with this universal preschool idea or what it will do to the economy.
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Originally posted by Willow View Post
I was so disgusted that he didn't hardly touch on unemployment or the deficit at all! Just spouted on and on about all these programs that are magically not going to cost us a dime!
I felt like I was in the twilight zone whenever people would stand up and clap......
On another note, the 102 year old woman who voted for him gets the longest standing ovation in the history of State of the Union addresses and the police officer who gets shot a dozen times in the line of duty gets crickets was BULL.
If that wasn't intentional brain washing bologna I don't know what is.......
*All coming from the one that hates to talk about politics in an open forum *sigh*
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